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<blockquote data-quote="dirtypool" data-source="post: 8644574" data-attributes="member: 7033897">A single statistic from Roll 20 shows you a trend about Roll 20, not necessarily a trend about Pathfinder 2e. Stating that a flawed metric like that has more value than a sales figure is bad information literacy. Looking at the Orr Report you could in fact conclude that Call of Cthulhu continues to perform incredibly well in the market place this year just as it did in last years Orr Report data and is even capable of rivaling PF2 for the #2 slot as represented by your using it as the example of the #3 slot.&nbsp; The Orr Report would indicate that view is wholly accurateThe actual sales ranking, admittedly without total dollar values, would show instead that CoC rejoined the top 5 best sellers in the #5 slot for the first time in 6 years in Q1 of this year.These two statements of that games overall health and market penetration are vastly different.Whether I see the dollar value associated with the ranking or not, I see that PF2's market penetration remains in the same general place in relation to every other product on the market.&nbsp; No it doesn't show me Paizo's profit, but it shows me how well it is doing in relation to how well D&amp;D is doing and how well Goodman Games' 3rd party content is doing.&nbsp; It allows me to take a temperature.Looking at how many users created campaigns on Roll20 does not allow me to take a temperature of PF2, but of Roll20 users.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dirtypool, post: 8644574, member: 7033897"] A single statistic from Roll 20 shows you a trend about Roll 20, not necessarily a trend about Pathfinder 2e. Stating that a flawed metric like that has more value than a sales figure is bad information literacy. Looking at the Orr Report you could in fact conclude that Call of Cthulhu continues to perform incredibly well in the market place this year just as it did in last years Orr Report data and is even capable of rivaling PF2 for the #2 slot as represented by your using it as the example of the #3 slot. The Orr Report would indicate that view is wholly accurate The actual sales ranking, admittedly without total dollar values, would show instead that CoC rejoined the top 5 best sellers in the #5 slot for the first time in 6 years in Q1 of this year. These two statements of that games overall health and market penetration are vastly different. Whether I see the dollar value associated with the ranking or not, I see that PF2's market penetration remains in the same general place in relation to every other product on the market. No it doesn't show me Paizo's profit, but it shows me how well it is doing in relation to how well D&D is doing and how well Goodman Games' 3rd party content is doing. It allows me to take a temperature. Looking at how many users created campaigns on Roll20 does not allow me to take a temperature of PF2, but of Roll20 users. [/QUOTE]

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