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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The-Magic-Sword" data-source="post: 8704514" data-attributes="member: 6801252">By all accounts, Pathfinder 2e and Paizo are doing pretty well, one of the designers recently referred to the community as exploding in an unrelated discussion, though I don't think I could track the reddit comment down. I'm seeing a lot more people who are referencing their pathfinder 2e games on social media, and others saying they wanna check it out. We're still getting a steady stream of "converted from 5e and I have questions" posts on reddit, and NoNat's newbie oriented channel is still growing. Most recently, we started getting major attention from largish 5e content creators annoyed that they have fans who want them to switch over, which led to a big discussion about how they fit into the possibility of the TTRPG market becoming more diverse. I'm hearing from IRL friends who are getting into Pathfinder 2e games with their formerly 5e groups that aren't me. Paizo is hiring again, as of quite recently, and while the salaries aren't stellar, "no one but WOTC actually pays better" still seems to apply. By all indications, three years in their release schedule is chugging on more-or-less undisturbed beyond covid delays and maybe a little shock from last year's drama, but there's a union now and its members are optimistic. If I had to say, it seems like the seemingly-evergreen players from the last handful of years of DND's growth are sort of coming into their own as players, and among those (some percentage, far from all) there are people who are finding themselves frustrated with 5e's lackadaisical approach to balance, rulings, and character options and are talking their groups into switching. I mostly know this because I've seen several people explain that exact sequence of events in their posts. Stephen of Roll For Combat I think made a good point in one of his streams with former Paizo Design Manager Mark Seifter: there are DND people, and Pathfinder people, in terms of taste for rules and balance and such, and a lot of the Pathfinder people don't know it yet. Even when that isn't the whole group, Pathfinder can make the group work a little better by helping them to stay non-disruptive through its design.</blockquote>

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