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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 8795528" data-attributes="member: 7026617">&quot;Somewhat easier&quot; and &quot;don't even work up a sweat&quot; seem to have a gap there though.&nbsp; The level-2s we dealt with recently weren't even worth using spell slots.That does require staying on top of that with consumeables as a player, however, and I really wonder how good most people are about that (I'm certainly not, and I don't think my wife is any better).&nbsp; Its easy to look up when you actually need them and realize what you have is, by that point, junk, and it doesn't take many levels for that to happen.I'm just questioning whether in traditional dungeons the GM always knows exactly how that combining-and-waves thing will end up happening, since some of it usually involves player actions.&nbsp; Mind you, I've argued this could go badly in older games too (maybe not D&amp;D3 or PF1 after a certain level since there was so much ability to just overcook everything at the PC end, but certainly back in the early days of the game it was a good recipe for a TPK).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thomas Shey, post: 8795528, member: 7026617"] "Somewhat easier" and "don't even work up a sweat" seem to have a gap there though. The level-2s we dealt with recently weren't even worth using spell slots. That does require staying on top of that with consumeables as a player, however, and I really wonder how good most people are about that (I'm certainly not, and I don't think my wife is any better). Its easy to look up when you actually need them and realize what you have is, by that point, junk, and it doesn't take many levels for that to happen. I'm just questioning whether in traditional dungeons the GM always knows exactly how that combining-and-waves thing will end up happening, since some of it usually involves player actions. Mind you, I've argued this could go badly in older games too (maybe not D&D3 or PF1 after a certain level since there was so much ability to just overcook everything at the PC end, but certainly back in the early days of the game it was a good recipe for a TPK). [/QUOTE]

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