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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7789536" data-attributes="member: 12731">What it means is, there are a certain subset of DMs including you two who forgive the devs for much anything with the general argument you the DM can fix it, often specifically referring to the monster's INT score.I don't buy that argument.Most DM's don't consider it a solution to draw out fights to extremes, and they're not willing to wrack their brains, just to overcome deficiencies in stat blocks.For you guys, there's no weakness in a stat block you're ready to pin on the devs, if you can spend hours treating it as an interesting challenge to be overcome. I would not have had any problem with that if you hadn't argued as if every DM is ready to make that investment.Over in the real world, though, I have news for you: either the monster works right out the box for it's pre-planned purpose, or I get to criticize the devs for their weak mushy monster stat-up skills.It is by now completely evident that monsters in the Monster Manual simply weren't written with all the goodies available in the PHB in mind. That is, they're mostly sad sacks of HP; every ability with the potential to challenge the players being written off because they could also make the players lose, and we can't have that.What I refuse to do, is to stay silent with the dismissive argument "you're just not spending enough time and effort on playing the monsters smart"Not only is that blaming the DM, it is letting WotC off the hook.I will not have it.I know for a fact monsters work much better in both 3E and now PF2. Your argument, that it's the DM not working hard enough, is easily trashed, when you try a game where devs actually make their homework and actually try providing monsters with abilities that interact with those of the heroes: confounding them, negating them, or forcing the heroes to use alternative strategies.</blockquote>

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