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<blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 3474022" data-attributes="member: 8158">Why is it that you have concluded that you are the only one who thinks that? A lot of folks think it's a dandy, balanced class.Throwing out the words &quot;overpowered&quot;, &quot;balanced&quot;, and &quot;weak&quot; as if they were the only meaningful labels that can be applied to a class is sort of a kneejerk reaction that leads to some miconceptions. In this case, if we conclude that the warlock is not &quot;overpowered&quot;, does that automatically clear it for gameplay? If you're not &quot;overpowered&quot;, are you therefore &quot;balanced&quot;?My own experiences with the class show that it has a very high potential for abuse relative to other classes due to its ability to spam its invocations. Not so much that I'd ban it outright, but I would express my concerns to that player. I don't want the warlock going around using dark speech to spam shatter at every object that doesn't please his eye. I don't want him spamming charm on every NPC he encounters. I don't want every battlefield to become a morass of spammed chilling tentacles. I don't want him dimension-dooring around every obstacle. Any of that would get old real quick.Now, another arcanist could conceivably try to do this sort of stuff (i.e. by going out and getting a wand of shatter), but in practice they are a lot less likely to do so than a warlock. The reason is simple: other casters have better things to do with their resources, while the warlock is constrained to repeating the same handful of tricks. Whereas other arcanists rely on a powerful arsenal, the warlock relies on infinite spammability. I'm not sure that's a great trade-off.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felon, post: 3474022, member: 8158"] Why is it that you have concluded that you are the only one who thinks that? A lot of folks think it's a dandy, balanced class. Throwing out the words "overpowered", "balanced", and "weak" as if they were the only meaningful labels that can be applied to a class is sort of a kneejerk reaction that leads to some miconceptions. In this case, if we conclude that the warlock is not "overpowered", does that automatically clear it for gameplay? If you're not "overpowered", are you therefore "balanced"? My own experiences with the class show that it has a very high potential for abuse relative to other classes due to its ability to spam its invocations. Not so much that I'd ban it outright, but I would express my concerns to that player. I don't want the warlock going around using dark speech to spam shatter at every object that doesn't please his eye. I don't want him spamming charm on every NPC he encounters. I don't want every battlefield to become a morass of spammed chilling tentacles. I don't want him dimension-dooring around every obstacle. Any of that would get old real quick. Now, another arcanist could conceivably try to do this sort of stuff (i.e. by going out and getting a wand of shatter), but in practice they are a lot less likely to do so than a warlock. The reason is simple: other casters have better things to do with their resources, while the warlock is constrained to repeating the same handful of tricks. Whereas other arcanists rely on a powerful arsenal, the warlock relies on infinite spammability. I'm not sure that's a great trade-off. [/QUOTE]

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