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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thyrwyn" data-source="post: 6532204" data-attributes="member: 12354">I would, too. But I would also be disappointed if, as a player, it were used against me (see below). A 2nd level spell that makes it impossible to be clever, cunning, or outright deceitful is a big detriment to a wide variety of character types. There are skills in the game that become practically useless if this spell is concealable and foolproof. Several background features and class traits, too.I agree that they are useful. But this is a 2nd level spell - if you ignore the "subject is aware" part, it becomes a crutch. PCs will cast it all the time, in every encounter or negotiation that they can reasonably get away with doing so. More importantly, how will your players react when you put them in a situation where this spell is used against them? Since you don't tell them they are aware of the spell how will you deal with their inability to lie? You can't tell them "you cannot lie", because that will give the spell away...</blockquote>