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<blockquote data-quote="mmadsen" data-source="post: 5042710" data-attributes="member: 1645"><p>Many of your points about "levels" are quite specific not just to D&D, but to certain narrow elements of D&D's level progression.</p><p></p><p>First and foremost, that 20th-level wizard is going to beat the 1st-level fighter in hand-to-combat because of his <strong>hit points</strong>. If we remove that one element of the level progression, we paint a very different picture.</p><p></p><p>The 20th-level wizard still has a higher BAB than a 1st-level fighter, but it's not unthinkable that, say, Gandalf could cuff a young knight or squire upside the head with his staff. For an adventuring wizard, it seems reasonable.</p><p></p><p>Aside from the hit dice, I believe the real problem in this example is that a 1st-level fighter is presented as a knight who has been training from childhood, but he only has a +1 BAB to show for it. Without hit dice getting in the way, it would make more sense for a trained-from-birth warrior to "start" at, say, 4th level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mmadsen, post: 5042710, member: 1645"] Many of your points about "levels" are quite specific not just to D&D, but to certain narrow elements of D&D's level progression. First and foremost, that 20th-level wizard is going to beat the 1st-level fighter in hand-to-combat because of his [b]hit points[/b]. If we remove that one element of the level progression, we paint a very different picture. The 20th-level wizard still has a higher BAB than a 1st-level fighter, but it's not unthinkable that, say, Gandalf could cuff a young knight or squire upside the head with his staff. For an adventuring wizard, it seems reasonable. Aside from the hit dice, I believe the real problem in this example is that a 1st-level fighter is presented as a knight who has been training from childhood, but he only has a +1 BAB to show for it. Without hit dice getting in the way, it would make more sense for a trained-from-birth warrior to "start" at, say, 4th level. [/QUOTE]
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