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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 8641018" data-attributes="member: 20564">In play, I come up with a character and go from there.&nbsp; It has to pay from 1st until however far the campaign goes, lets say ending somewhere in the 7-12 range.&nbsp; There's never a point when I can afford for it to be &quot;not on&quot;.&nbsp; And I don't work out builds ahead of time. 5e is fairly forgiving as long as you don't do a few of the big sins of multiclassing so I can pull my weight and not let down my party no matter which way I go, including staying single-classed.In theorycrafting, it has to be viable from 1st - I have disdain for people who craft for 20th level unless it's a one-shot where you start there.&nbsp; In those cases I need to be able to keep up at the level 5 power bump, and basically be fully functional even if not yet &quot;all the bonuses!&quot; ready by say 7th or 8th.&nbsp; But those are more fun solo minigames of &quot;what can I build:, I don't run those types of builds anymore.&nbsp; (And I admit that &quot;anymore&quot; - I used to build out 3.x characters 1 thru 20, though there you needed to be able to hit requisites for PrCs and such and if you missed getting a feat by a level because you didn't have prerequisites it would set everything back really far.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blue, post: 8641018, member: 20564"] In play, I come up with a character and go from there. It has to pay from 1st until however far the campaign goes, lets say ending somewhere in the 7-12 range. There's never a point when I can afford for it to be "not on". And I don't work out builds ahead of time. 5e is fairly forgiving as long as you don't do a few of the big sins of multiclassing so I can pull my weight and not let down my party no matter which way I go, including staying single-classed. In theorycrafting, it has to be viable from 1st - I have [I]disdain[/I] for people who craft for 20th level unless it's a one-shot where you start there. In those cases I need to be able to keep up at the level 5 power bump, and basically be fully functional even if not yet "all the bonuses!" ready by say 7th or 8th. But those are more fun solo minigames of "what can I build:, I don't run those types of builds anymore. (And I admit that "anymore" - I used to build out 3.x characters 1 thru 20, though there you needed to be able to hit requisites for PrCs and such and if you missed getting a feat by a level because you didn't have prerequisites it would set everything back really far.) [/QUOTE]

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