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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 8641035" data-attributes="member: 2629">I see a lot of different approaches, but some are definitely locked in planners that do not adapt.For example, I had a player that came to me at the start of a campaign and showed me an excel sheet that laid out his character progression from level 1 to 20.&nbsp; In it, for each level, he selected classes, feats, spells, and magic items he'd acquire by then.&nbsp; They were not highly specific, but it included things like having a strength magic item by level 5 and a magic weapon by level 6.&nbsp; I remember that the strength magic item was at level 5 because when he was a level 4 PC he already had two attuned items and the group found a homebrew magic item that would be good for him - but he declined to take it because he was planning on going back to town and paying for someone to build him Gauntlets of Ogre Power to stay on plan.I knew he was a ... rigid ... player, so I worked his plans into my games broadly to keep him happy.&nbsp; Now, I made sure we worked on the role playing side of things as well and that all of those decisions fit into a character story - but this wasn't that unusual of a situation for me as a DM ... some players just want to tell their PC's story as they dreamed it up, and DMs can find ways to make that work for the game overall - even when the focus in not on the elements you'd prioritize as a DM.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 8641035, member: 2629"] I see a lot of different approaches, but some are definitely locked in planners that do not adapt. For example, I had a player that came to me at the start of a campaign and showed me an excel sheet that laid out his character progression from level 1 to 20. In it, for each level, he selected classes, feats, spells, and magic items he'd acquire by then. They were not highly specific, but it included things like having a strength magic item by level 5 and a magic weapon by level 6. I remember that the strength magic item was at level 5 because when he was a level 4 PC he already had two attuned items and the group found a homebrew magic item that would be good for him - but he declined to take it because he was planning on going back to town and paying for someone to build him Gauntlets of Ogre Power to stay on plan. I knew he was a ... rigid ... player, so I worked his plans into my games broadly to keep him happy. Now, I made sure we worked on the role playing side of things as well and that all of those decisions fit into a character story - but this wasn't that unusual of a situation for me as a DM ... some players just want to tell their PC's story as they dreamed it up, and DMs can find ways to make that work for the game overall - even when the focus in not on the elements you'd prioritize as a DM. [/QUOTE]

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