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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8641811" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Sure, but a PrC is generally not representative of backstory, it is rather representative of new growth. Yet, because of the way 3e handled PrC requirements, often you actually do kind of need to prepare, a lot, to qualify. E.g., if you don't take the specific feats you need soon enough, or &quot;waste&quot; (note the quotes) your skill points on non-critical skills, it may literally be possible (indeed, it is often possible) to price yourself out of ever qualifying for that PrC.While that's sorta-kinda fair (I say &quot;sorta-kinda&quot; because I don't think you need to be that level, it's just unlikely if you aren't...and that's what makes it notable!), it's a bit tangential to the topic. Instead, this is more like &quot;because I didn't spend a total of 8 skill points on Use Rope until level 11, I now cannot ever complete my Eagle Scout PrC, because it's a 10-level PrC and I'm already level 11.&quot;3e, and as a consequence PF, heavily punishes a failure to plan one's build. Failing to pick up effective feats, skills, etc. early on actually can lock you out of important growth later.Why shouldn't they want that? Lots of folks like to highlight how rare true long-running campaigns are. Shouldn't people want to get to the &quot;good stuff&quot; soon, so they actually get a chance to see it in play?...is anyone actually asking for that?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8641811, member: 6790260"] Sure, but a PrC is generally not representative of [I]backstory[/I], it is rather representative of [I]new growth[/I]. Yet, because of the way 3e handled PrC requirements, often you actually do kind of need to prepare, a [I]lot[/I], to qualify. E.g., if you [I]don't[/I] take the specific feats you need soon enough, or "waste" (note the quotes) your skill points on non-critical skills, it may literally be possible (indeed, it is [I]often[/I] possible) to price yourself out of [I]ever[/I] qualifying for that PrC. While that's sorta-kinda fair (I say "sorta-kinda" because I don't think you [I]need[/I] to be that level, it's just unlikely if you aren't...and that's what makes it notable!), it's a bit tangential to the topic. Instead, this is more like "because I didn't spend a total of 8 skill points on Use Rope until level 11, I now [I]cannot ever[/I] complete my Eagle Scout PrC, because it's a 10-level PrC and I'm already level 11." 3e, and as a consequence PF, heavily punishes a failure to plan one's build. Failing to pick up effective feats, skills, etc. early on [I]actually can[/I] lock you out of important growth later. Why shouldn't they want that? Lots of folks like to highlight how rare true long-running campaigns are. Shouldn't people want to get to the "good stuff" soon, so they actually get a chance to [I]see[/I] it in play? ...is anyone actually asking for that? [/QUOTE]

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