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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1257204" data-attributes="member: 2011">It is fine at 30 GP as long as the duration is not permanent. It is a mundane item. How many mundane items in the real world cause permanent deafness from one short burst of loud sound, but only in a 10 foot radius? The item is nonsensical if it causes permanent deafness.As to the DC, the spell can have a lower DC, but typically it is higher than the stone at 15. Give or take, the spell has a DC range of 13 (minimum arcane) to maybe 23 (maximum divine) at very high level with a stat boost item and a feat thrown in.But, considering that the Thunderstone can affect multiple enemies, it is similar to a "Mass Deafness" type of spell (except that you cannot choose targets and the DC would be somewhat lower). As such, it is very close to a 4th level spell equivalent. That's extremely potent for 30 GP.Drop the permanency aspect (like 3.5 did), and the stone is closer to 1st/2nd level and 30 GP is an ok price.</blockquote>