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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4500119" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>I just recently did a <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/blogs/kamikaze-midget/" target="_blank">blog post</a> about how I crunched some numbers on how often and how many levels I actually get through, and how long it takes me to get through them.</p><p></p><p>By "get through them," I mean use them, from levels 1 to 30, all-inclusive. I mean, that's what you're paying for, with the books. 30 levels of all-inclusive goodness. That's why we need so many pages and why information density is such a huge deal. </p><p></p><p>I've gotta say, as a busy adult with Stuff to Do, some of these numbers kind of depress me.</p><p></p><p>If you spend 4 hours per session, that's an entire afternoon or evening. Most of the day is vapor.</p><p></p><p>Because of that, gaming doesn't happen every week. There are birthdays or holidays or times when people can't make it. But let's be a little optimistic. Let's say, 3 times a month (that's once a week, minus one week).</p><p></p><p>Let's say you level up once every four sessions. Maybe have 2 or 3 combats per session. Gives you some time to make use of your shiny new abilities in a variety of contexts. </p><p></p><p>How long does it take you to use all the "content" the rules have provided for you?</p><p></p><p><strong>Over three years</strong>. The time people spend getting a college degree, the time people spend in high school (not counting summers), you spend taking a 1st level elf to being a 30th level elf.</p><p></p><p><strong>That is 480 hours</strong>. </p><p></p><p><strong><u>That is a crap-ton of gaming</u></strong>. Not to mention a HUGE commitment. I haven't worked many <em>jobs</em> for longer than two years. I haven't even lived in NYC for as long as it would have taken me to go from level 1-30, assuming that the group actually met that regularly. </p><p></p><p>I am a busy adult. I have Stuff to Do. Ladies to seduce and all that. </p><p></p><p>I can't help but think that there is a more efficient use of page space than spending a little over three years of my life getting to, not to mention holding my attention for that long. </p><p></p><p>In comparison, the longest I've spent playing a videogame has been about 70 hours. Then I move onto the next game.</p><p></p><p>To fit those 30 levels into even one year of gaming, you will need to almost gain one level at every single session. As someone who has done that before, it seems...<em>fast</em>. You don't get to use your old powers before you get new ones. </p><p></p><p>With the rate above, WotC could have put out core books with only the Heroic tier in them, and we would all be playing it until the PHB2 came out. Maybe the PHB2 could have been Paragon tier. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>Man. It's kind of weird to think that I only use one third of the game in an entire year of scheduling these little playdates. </p><p></p><p>So much of the core rules are useless when you have this attention span. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>But, to the point, how goes it in your games? Do these calculations hold up? How many levels do you get through before everything goes all wahooni-shaped and you start over again? How many months does that take you? How many years? How many hours of game time?</p><p></p><p>And don't you kind of wish D&D took that into account when making rule books? 'cuz I do. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 4500119, member: 2067"] I just recently did a [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/blogs/kamikaze-midget/"]blog post[/URL] about how I crunched some numbers on how often and how many levels I actually get through, and how long it takes me to get through them. By "get through them," I mean use them, from levels 1 to 30, all-inclusive. I mean, that's what you're paying for, with the books. 30 levels of all-inclusive goodness. That's why we need so many pages and why information density is such a huge deal. I've gotta say, as a busy adult with Stuff to Do, some of these numbers kind of depress me. If you spend 4 hours per session, that's an entire afternoon or evening. Most of the day is vapor. Because of that, gaming doesn't happen every week. There are birthdays or holidays or times when people can't make it. But let's be a little optimistic. Let's say, 3 times a month (that's once a week, minus one week). Let's say you level up once every four sessions. Maybe have 2 or 3 combats per session. Gives you some time to make use of your shiny new abilities in a variety of contexts. How long does it take you to use all the "content" the rules have provided for you? [B]Over three years[/B]. The time people spend getting a college degree, the time people spend in high school (not counting summers), you spend taking a 1st level elf to being a 30th level elf. [B]That is 480 hours[/B]. [B][U]That is a crap-ton of gaming[/U][/B][U][/U]. Not to mention a HUGE commitment. I haven't worked many [I]jobs[/I] for longer than two years. I haven't even lived in NYC for as long as it would have taken me to go from level 1-30, assuming that the group actually met that regularly. I am a busy adult. I have Stuff to Do. Ladies to seduce and all that. I can't help but think that there is a more efficient use of page space than spending a little over three years of my life getting to, not to mention holding my attention for that long. In comparison, the longest I've spent playing a videogame has been about 70 hours. Then I move onto the next game. To fit those 30 levels into even one year of gaming, you will need to almost gain one level at every single session. As someone who has done that before, it seems...[I]fast[/I]. You don't get to use your old powers before you get new ones. With the rate above, WotC could have put out core books with only the Heroic tier in them, and we would all be playing it until the PHB2 came out. Maybe the PHB2 could have been Paragon tier. ;) Man. It's kind of weird to think that I only use one third of the game in an entire year of scheduling these little playdates. So much of the core rules are useless when you have this attention span. :) But, to the point, how goes it in your games? Do these calculations hold up? How many levels do you get through before everything goes all wahooni-shaped and you start over again? How many months does that take you? How many years? How many hours of game time? And don't you kind of wish D&D took that into account when making rule books? 'cuz I do. :) [/QUOTE]
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