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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hawken" data-source="post: 2398802" data-attributes="member: 23619">The gear is different in each edition, but so are the classes. And its a composite of things to compare. If such a battle were to take place, you're not going to have two naked fighters duking it out and see who falls first. Of course the 3.5 character would win, hands down. That wouldn't even be a challenge. No point in even comparing such a thing. The different editions had different dynamics. Gear and spells in 1e trump 3.5e virtually every time. While the 3.5 classes trump their 1e equivalent a majority of the time--not in such cases like Monks, Assassins and Wizards though. But definitely where melee/ranged fighters are concerned. You're going to have a decked out 1st edition fighter (or fighter/mage, etc.) duking it out against a decked out 3.5 fighter. Besides, your topic doesn't specify "naked" characters toe-to-toe either. And who would do that anyway? 3.5 fighters have more options than a 1e fighter. But a 1e wizard will rule over a 3.5e wizard each and every time--that 1e wizard would be unleashing 9D4+9 magic missiles all over that 3.5 wizard, and that would quickly eat through a 3.5 brooch of shielding; or any other spells that have since been weakened with each successive edition. The factors in the scenario you are proposing (18th fighter 1e vs. 18th fighter 3.5e) is external options vs. inherent options. An 18th fighter in 1e was a bad-ass because of the treasure and gear he acquired. An 18th fighter in 3.5e is a bad-ass because of his feats since he is limited to gear that typically sucks hind <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> by comparison.  If you're talking equal, then everything has to be equal including stats and such. In 1e, an 18 strength is not the same as a 3.5 strength score. Ogres had 18/00, which translates to about 24 or 26 in 3.5. Storm Giants had a 24, which translates to a 39 in 3.5e. If you're going "naked" and "equal", then you have to equalize the variants before you start tossing dice. If you're going to have 2h weapons do 1.5Xstr bonus damage in 3.5, then you have to apply the same to 1e to keep it "equal".</blockquote>

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