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<blockquote data-quote="77IM" data-source="post: 7622259" data-attributes="member: 12377">What if the 1st-levels dogpile (grapple + shove + keep grappling so he can't stand up)?The rules are unclear on whether a single Escape Action is capable of freeing you from multiple grapplers, but for the sake of argument let's say it is. Maybe half the grunts focus on grappling -- with 4 checks (proficient with Athletics gets them +5 each) that's reasonably likely to overwhelm the big guy (proficient with Athletics is +9 bonus) -- my math says that each round the big guy has a 20% chance of winning against all 4 grunts. And if he only wins against 2 grunts, then he can be grappled and prone. On those rounds, the grunts have advantage on attacks against him; so the grunts have given up half their attacks in exchange for advantage on the other half, which is not horrible. But more important, the big guy has disadvantage on attacks against the grunts, which could be quite a substantial benefit to them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="77IM, post: 7622259, member: 12377"] What if the 1st-levels dogpile (grapple + shove + keep grappling so he can't stand up)? The rules are unclear on whether a single Escape Action is capable of freeing you from multiple grapplers, but for the sake of argument let's say it is. Maybe half the grunts focus on grappling -- with 4 checks (proficient with Athletics gets them +5 each) that's reasonably likely to overwhelm the big guy (proficient with Athletics is +9 bonus) -- my math says that each round the big guy has a 20% chance of winning against all 4 grunts. And if he only wins against 2 grunts, then he can be grappled and prone. On those rounds, the grunts have advantage on attacks against him; so the grunts have given up half their attacks in exchange for advantage on the other half, which is not horrible. But more important, the big guy has disadvantage on attacks against the grunts, which could be quite a substantial benefit to them. [/QUOTE]

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