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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9027572" data-attributes="member: 6801845">The question I would have for this is did he have a gambeson under the armor because it looks like he does not. That's what gave the guy in chain that I watched buoyancy.&nbsp; Of course, whether people wore a gambeson under plate also depends on who you ask and may have varied.So I'm not convinced it's case closed. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤔" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f914.png" title="Thinking face&nbsp; &nbsp; :thinking:" data-shortname=":thinking:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />P.S. AC is so messed up in D&amp;D I don't penalize people for swimming in armor.&nbsp; Someone in high quality plate should be far, far harder to damage than someone running around in &quot;leather&quot; armor or the it-never-existed studded version.&nbsp; So since I have no idea how hard it would be to swim in brigandine, I'm not going to nerf the strength based fighter or paladin every time they come within throwing distance of water.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9027572, member: 6801845"] The question I would have for this is did he have a gambeson under the armor because it looks like he does not. That's what gave the guy in chain that I watched buoyancy. Of course, whether people wore a gambeson under plate also depends on who you ask and may have varied. So I'm not convinced it's case closed. 🤔 P.S. AC is so messed up in D&D I don't penalize people for swimming in armor. Someone in high quality plate should be far, far harder to damage than someone running around in "leather" armor or the it-never-existed studded version. So since I have no idea how hard it would be to swim in brigandine, I'm not going to nerf the strength based fighter or paladin every time they come within throwing distance of water. [/QUOTE]

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