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<blockquote data-quote="pukunui" data-source="post: 7553876" data-attributes="member: 54629">I'm confused as to what the issue is here? When would you ever want to shield bash and then *not* use the Attack action straight after in order to get advantage from the target being prone? And why is that not a sound tactic? It makes more sense to me to knock your opponent over and then hit them while they're down than to &quot;rattle&quot; them a bit and then knock them down after.Are there players who want to use shield bash to knock their opponents down and then go do something else?I'm really struggling to see what's so controversial here, and why people are insisting that the Attack action be taken if shield bash is used. What other viable option is there? Is there some sort of &quot;<s>spray</s> shield bash and walk away&quot; combo that I'm missing here?I've experienced this myself. So frustrating! Why is it so hard for him to just say &quot;yes&quot; or &quot;no&quot;? It certainly would save him a lot of unnecessary verbiage.I have not watched him DM. I am wondering if you would be willing to elaborate on this at all. Feel free to PM me if you prefer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pukunui, post: 7553876, member: 54629"] I'm confused as to what the issue is here? When would you ever want to shield bash and then *not* use the Attack action straight after in order to get advantage from the target being prone? And why is that not a sound tactic? It makes more sense to me to knock your opponent over and then hit them while they're down than to "rattle" them a bit and then knock them down after. Are there players who want to use shield bash to knock their opponents down and then go do something else? I'm really struggling to see what's so controversial here, and why people are insisting that the Attack action be taken if shield bash is used. What other viable option is there? Is there some sort of "[s]spray[/s] shield bash and walk away" combo that I'm missing here? I've experienced this myself. So frustrating! Why is it so hard for him to just say "yes" or "no"? It certainly would save him a lot of unnecessary verbiage. I have not watched him DM. I am wondering if you would be willing to elaborate on this at all. Feel free to PM me if you prefer. [/QUOTE]

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