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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6602259" data-attributes="member: 5834">Yep on both counts.Shield was an amazing defensive device vastly underestimated in most games. Getting around a shield with a weapon was difficult. That's why the Romans developed the pilum to punch through it and weight it down. Shield walls were amazingly effective as well. Mobile archery somewhat mitigated this in the open field. For ground armies versus ground armies the sword and board combination was king. A skilled sword and board guy in armor as well was nearly invulnerable against any other type of fighting style. A good shield wielder could pin other weapons or use his shield to open his opponent to attack. A greatsword guy might swing down on a shield user, have the shield user deflect his blow, drive it outside his body, and then go inside to stab or hack him. Once the two-handed weapon was put in a bad position, recovery for defense was difficult at best. As you said, D&amp;D isn't lethal and doesn't mirror real combat. It's cinematic. Another reason I'd like to see TWF brought up to snuff with other fighting styles. Cinematic TWF is supposed to be highly effective and looks very cool.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 6602259, member: 5834"] Yep on both counts. Shield was an amazing defensive device vastly underestimated in most games. Getting around a shield with a weapon was difficult. That's why the Romans developed the pilum to punch through it and weight it down. Shield walls were amazingly effective as well. Mobile archery somewhat mitigated this in the open field. For ground armies versus ground armies the sword and board combination was king. A skilled sword and board guy in armor as well was nearly invulnerable against any other type of fighting style. A good shield wielder could pin other weapons or use his shield to open his opponent to attack. A greatsword guy might swing down on a shield user, have the shield user deflect his blow, drive it outside his body, and then go inside to stab or hack him. Once the two-handed weapon was put in a bad position, recovery for defense was difficult at best. As you said, D&D isn't lethal and doesn't mirror real combat. It's cinematic. Another reason I'd like to see TWF brought up to snuff with other fighting styles. Cinematic TWF is supposed to be highly effective and looks very cool. [/QUOTE]

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