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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 7365292" data-attributes="member: 18">The second DDI was great.I dunno if you actually ran 4E, but I did, and it was tremendous. Countless hours were saved by having a character builder that worked really well (managing to do things Beyond's one can't handle), a monster builder that was really fast and effective (if Beyond has one, and I presume it does, I can't find it).I'm not sure why you're claiming it "couldn't incorporate homebrew", because it sure as hell could in terms of monsters and so on. It couldn't incorporate homebrew rules, maybe, but I didn't use any in 4E, because honestly, it didn't really need any (and the big flaws it did have couldn't corrected by anything like that, sadly).Re: DungeonScape, I am going to fault WotC for taking so long. It's not like they didn't have good choices - they absolutely did. They consistently made bad choices with licensing of D&D though, and Beyond appears to be another one of those.Re: PF, does it require you to buy them full-real-world-price (i.e. Amazon price - Amazon own Curse and thus Beyond, note)? Does it give you PDFs/offline copies? If doesn't charge you full real price, and/or does give you PDFs, you're being disingenuous, and that sucks.Also, I dunno what kind of wizardry we used because I don't run PF, but I paid nothing and got to use a character builder that had all the options I needed build my character last time I played PF (mid-2016). It didn't appear to be an official one either, but hadn't been C&D'd or anything.I'm literally on the site right now... that's why I was discussing it. It's pretty pathetic. It won't even show you what content it's not showing you, as it were. That's just incompetent! It's slick, but I'd rather have functional than slick, and it's behind where even the earliest iterations of the DDI were in functionality.Further, it doesn't give you any PDFs - that may well be "On WotC", but it also means charging large one-off charges is just unreasonable, and charging the entire real-world price of a book you can't use offline is just laughable.</blockquote>

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