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<blockquote data-quote="LordEntrails" data-source="post: 7365494" data-attributes="member: 6804070"><p>Maybe people are finally learning that you can't/shouldn't steal from people/companies and fewer people have tried doing things illegally with 5E than they did with 4E? Maybe people are learning...?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Um, a few things here. If you want digital content then why did you buy the physical books in the first place? And then decide to complain about being asked to buy them again? I have a all the core books, plus many expansions and AP's (legally) and I have never bought a physical book. Nor do I plan to.</p><p></p><p>I've had these since May '15 (they were available about Feb '15) and new releases are available on the early WPN dates which is days/weeks before Amazon has them.</p><p></p><p>I get to read my digital products offline. I get then at something like 40% off MSRP. Sometimes I get them on sale for even less than that. And if I wanted everything, then I would get another 25% off with a bundle price.</p><p></p><p>People here almost seem to intentionally keep themselves ignorant of this. Seems to be some sort of prejudice based on misconceptions. If you want 5E in digital format, get a $4/month subscription or a $39 one-time license then buy everything else at the ~40% percent off; <a href="https://www.fantasygrounds.com/store/?sys=-1&pub=29&typ=-1&search=&sort=1" target="_blank">https://www.fantasygrounds.com/store/?sys=-1&pub=29&typ=-1&search=&sort=1</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>FG gives you offline access and they are ~40% off full price.</p><p></p><p>So you were probably using something illegal and you are now complaining that you don't have such for 5E?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now that I've educated you about this fallacy above, still got a complaint?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think the consideration here is that 5E doesn't have repeatable math to do (i.e. monster creation can not be fully automated.</p><p></p><p>FG does sub-classes. And you can get a subscription or a one-time license.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed on this. I think it would help their return sales as well. "Oh hey, you mean their is another race/class/option I can try? Only $2.99, I'll take a peak at that..."</p><p></p><p></p><p>I thought the DDB prices were less than MSRP/full-price?</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you did the same with FG (and you would have never had to buy the printed books in the first place!)</p><p>A one-time license is $39, </p><p>PHB + DMG + MM = $90</p><p>Xan + Volo + SCAG = $90</p><p><strong>Totaling $219</strong></p><p></p><p>That gets you all the books in digital format for life. No subscription. With offline access. (and more capabilities than a PDF.)</p><p></p><p>If your group wants all the benefits of FG (such as sharing the books and a FULLY featured VTT)? Then the one-time ultimate license is $149 (though it's often on sale, like now). So that $219 goes to $329. <em>Still less than your 3 years of DDI or DDB</em>.</p><p></p><p>IMO, I agree that DDB is not worth the money. But their is, and has been for years, a digital 5E format for everything WotC. Not knowing that means you didn't do your homework, but that's ok. Now that you know, you should know better.</p><p></p><p><u>Full Disclosure:</u></p><p>Yes, Roll20 has a 5E license, but their products are at full/MSRP price (meaning just the products you listed above are much more expensive on Roll20 than buying them on FG with an FG license). AND not all the WotC products are available on Roll 20. AND, they are not available off-line or if Roll20 ever shuts down.</p><p></p><p>Their is also another digital partner for WotC, I think it's another VTT, but I don't think they have released anything yet. Not sure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LordEntrails, post: 7365494, member: 6804070"] Maybe people are finally learning that you can't/shouldn't steal from people/companies and fewer people have tried doing things illegally with 5E than they did with 4E? Maybe people are learning...? Um, a few things here. If you want digital content then why did you buy the physical books in the first place? And then decide to complain about being asked to buy them again? I have a all the core books, plus many expansions and AP's (legally) and I have never bought a physical book. Nor do I plan to. I've had these since May '15 (they were available about Feb '15) and new releases are available on the early WPN dates which is days/weeks before Amazon has them. I get to read my digital products offline. I get then at something like 40% off MSRP. Sometimes I get them on sale for even less than that. And if I wanted everything, then I would get another 25% off with a bundle price. People here almost seem to intentionally keep themselves ignorant of this. Seems to be some sort of prejudice based on misconceptions. If you want 5E in digital format, get a $4/month subscription or a $39 one-time license then buy everything else at the ~40% percent off; [URL]https://www.fantasygrounds.com/store/?sys=-1&pub=29&typ=-1&search=&sort=1[/URL] FG gives you offline access and they are ~40% off full price. So you were probably using something illegal and you are now complaining that you don't have such for 5E? Now that I've educated you about this fallacy above, still got a complaint? I think the consideration here is that 5E doesn't have repeatable math to do (i.e. monster creation can not be fully automated. FG does sub-classes. And you can get a subscription or a one-time license. Agreed on this. I think it would help their return sales as well. "Oh hey, you mean their is another race/class/option I can try? Only $2.99, I'll take a peak at that..." I thought the DDB prices were less than MSRP/full-price? If you did the same with FG (and you would have never had to buy the printed books in the first place!) A one-time license is $39, PHB + DMG + MM = $90 Xan + Volo + SCAG = $90 [B]Totaling $219[/B] That gets you all the books in digital format for life. No subscription. With offline access. (and more capabilities than a PDF.) If your group wants all the benefits of FG (such as sharing the books and a FULLY featured VTT)? Then the one-time ultimate license is $149 (though it's often on sale, like now). So that $219 goes to $329. [I]Still less than your 3 years of DDI or DDB[/I]. IMO, I agree that DDB is not worth the money. But their is, and has been for years, a digital 5E format for everything WotC. Not knowing that means you didn't do your homework, but that's ok. Now that you know, you should know better. [U]Full Disclosure:[/U] Yes, Roll20 has a 5E license, but their products are at full/MSRP price (meaning just the products you listed above are much more expensive on Roll20 than buying them on FG with an FG license). AND not all the WotC products are available on Roll 20. AND, they are not available off-line or if Roll20 ever shuts down. Their is also another digital partner for WotC, I think it's another VTT, but I don't think they have released anything yet. Not sure. [/QUOTE]
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