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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5893289" data-attributes="member: 92511">(bolding, mine)OK! I know this might not be the thread for it...but I've thought this for so long, I have to say it SOMEwhere...VAMPIRE IS NOT A CLASS!!!!Vampirism is a DISEASE! An affliction! A curse! ANYONE can be...become...be turned into...a vampire!It's not something you do (a class) it's something you are or become in the course of play (preferably avoid becoming at all costs!)&nbsp;I do not give one whit how popular Twilight is...or Buffy (though I am a HUGE Buffy fan from waaaay back!) It has NO PLACE in a list of &quot;classes.&quot;That's Twilight and/or Buffy and/or Angel...not D&amp;D!That goes for werewolves (-rats, -boars, -tigers, -bears) also.We have some indication that werewolf and vampire will both be &quot;themes&quot; or &quot;backgrounds&quot; that can be built onto a character in 5e. That is...at least tolerable...You weren't &quot;born a vampire&quot; but have become one before play starts. I can see that...and it has the added advantage of being easily dismissed with a &quot;No, you can't take that.&quot;But to make it all its own CLASS?! No way! Madness I tell you, MAAAADDDDNESS!--SD</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 5893289, member: 92511"] (bolding, mine) OK! I know this might not be the thread for it...but I've thought this for so long, I have to say it SOMEwhere... VAMPIRE IS NOT A CLASS!!!! Vampirism is a DISEASE! An affliction! A curse! ANYONE can be...become...be turned into...a vampire! It's not something you [I]do[/I] (a class) it's something you[I] are[/I] or become in the course of play (preferably avoid becoming at all costs!) I do not give one whit how popular Twilight is...or Buffy (though I am a HUGE Buffy fan from waaaay back!) It has NO PLACE in a list of "classes." That's Twilight and/or Buffy and/or Angel...not D&D! That goes for werewolves (-rats, -boars, -tigers, -bears) also. We have some indication that werewolf and vampire will both be "themes" or "backgrounds" that can be built onto a character in 5e. That is...at least tolerable...You weren't "born a vampire" but have become one before play starts. I can see that...and it has the added advantage of being easily dismissed with a "No, you can't take that." But to make it all its own CLASS?! No way! Madness I tell you, MAAAADDDDNESS! --SD [/QUOTE]

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