Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition (A5E)
How many coins is 1 bulky item & the real value of gems/trade goods
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8256980" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>At some point many kids are offered the exciting chance of rolling all of the coins in their parent's jar of everfilling loose pocket change back before those self sorting coinstar machines started being a common thing & that gives most people an idea of just how time consuming it can be to organize even a small pile of awkward to carry coins dumped on the floor for them but that awkward pile isn't a thing in d&d because 50coins =1 pound sorted or not & 1 pound is insignificant given PC carrying capacities. I was watching a video</p><p>[spoiler="about adventurer backpacks"]</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]5N-iXqZvLls:1100[/MEDIA][/spoiler]</p><p>At about the 18 min mark where the video is pegged Shad mentions a chest of gold & talks a bit on the logistics about lots of coins D&D has 5 different 10x /q 10th stepping coin denominations plus trade goods & things like easily portable gems/artwork but with carrying capacities 50coins=1 pound ensures that the party won't really need to think much even if the gm gives them a huge pile of copper & silver. If you've ever handled money in retail or similar you probably know just how heavy & awkward that a 10 3/8" x 5" x 3 1/4" <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=box+of+quarters&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS859US859&sxsrf=ALeKk03EViu6lc1OLA38BiKkYubvzSP6GA:1619448352698&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDrq2ek5zwAhVoQzABHXYvBZIQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1536&bih=722" target="_blank">500$ box of quarters</a> filor similar can be at around 25 pounds when filled with 50 painstakingly rolled up rolls of quarters . Using the standard 50 coins =1 pound it would be 40 pounds for that box of 2000 quarters, but2000gp is nothing really & even if the party found a significant sum like 50,000gp that only works out to around 250 pounds across a party of 4 & tha's not a significant amount of weight even if the party is already carrying their gear & such. Sure the GM can use a larger pile of copper or silver, but that tends to just invoke " that's only like a couple thousand gold... does anyone care that much or should we just leave it?" unless it just leaps into completely credibility straining mountain sized piles of coins where the players couldn't really do anything on their own with it beyond sell a map to it or something.</p><p></p><p><strong>If some number of unsorted unstacked or unrolled coins amounts to one bulky item though it would solve a lot of trouble.</strong> Adding a simple difficult choice like deciding if this gold vrs ditching rations(not to mention that ###gp mug) or spending a huge amount of time sorting it into stacks/rolls/etc can change how players value those not so valuable trade goods gems/art/etc. Alternately it could introduce real value in having henchmen & a donkey or something to carry & sort this kinda stuff</p><p></p><p>With the followers/henchmen/= type things it becomes even more important to have some kind of xxx unstacked coins=1 bulky item. If even 1-2 players have a follower or two that dramatically ups the size of a pile that is trivial to manage. Sure a GM could say "no your followers refuse to carry coins becausre they are cooks & pack animal handlers" or something but at a certain point the players can just offer too large a percentage of the pile they would otherwise leave behind for that to seem credible. I may never have had a job unloading armored trucks, but if my boss rolled up with a moving van of quarters & offers me half of everything I can carry to the bank I could probably carry a whole heck of a lot quite happily not caring that's not my job & probably not that unusual in that regard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8256980, member: 93670"] At some point many kids are offered the exciting chance of rolling all of the coins in their parent's jar of everfilling loose pocket change back before those self sorting coinstar machines started being a common thing & that gives most people an idea of just how time consuming it can be to organize even a small pile of awkward to carry coins dumped on the floor for them but that awkward pile isn't a thing in d&d because 50coins =1 pound sorted or not & 1 pound is insignificant given PC carrying capacities. I was watching a video [spoiler="about adventurer backpacks"] [MEDIA=youtube]5N-iXqZvLls:1100[/MEDIA][/spoiler] At about the 18 min mark where the video is pegged Shad mentions a chest of gold & talks a bit on the logistics about lots of coins D&D has 5 different 10x /q 10th stepping coin denominations plus trade goods & things like easily portable gems/artwork but with carrying capacities 50coins=1 pound ensures that the party won't really need to think much even if the gm gives them a huge pile of copper & silver. If you've ever handled money in retail or similar you probably know just how heavy & awkward that a 10 3/8" x 5" x 3 1/4" [URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=box+of+quarters&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS859US859&sxsrf=ALeKk03EViu6lc1OLA38BiKkYubvzSP6GA:1619448352698&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDrq2ek5zwAhVoQzABHXYvBZIQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1536&bih=722']500$ box of quarters[/URL] filor similar can be at around 25 pounds when filled with 50 painstakingly rolled up rolls of quarters . Using the standard 50 coins =1 pound it would be 40 pounds for that box of 2000 quarters, but2000gp is nothing really & even if the party found a significant sum like 50,000gp that only works out to around 250 pounds across a party of 4 & tha's not a significant amount of weight even if the party is already carrying their gear & such. Sure the GM can use a larger pile of copper or silver, but that tends to just invoke " that's only like a couple thousand gold... does anyone care that much or should we just leave it?" unless it just leaps into completely credibility straining mountain sized piles of coins where the players couldn't really do anything on their own with it beyond sell a map to it or something. [B]If some number of unsorted unstacked or unrolled coins amounts to one bulky item though it would solve a lot of trouble.[/B] Adding a simple difficult choice like deciding if this gold vrs ditching rations(not to mention that ###gp mug) or spending a huge amount of time sorting it into stacks/rolls/etc can change how players value those not so valuable trade goods gems/art/etc. Alternately it could introduce real value in having henchmen & a donkey or something to carry & sort this kinda stuff With the followers/henchmen/= type things it becomes even more important to have some kind of xxx unstacked coins=1 bulky item. If even 1-2 players have a follower or two that dramatically ups the size of a pile that is trivial to manage. Sure a GM could say "no your followers refuse to carry coins becausre they are cooks & pack animal handlers" or something but at a certain point the players can just offer too large a percentage of the pile they would otherwise leave behind for that to seem credible. I may never have had a job unloading armored trucks, but if my boss rolled up with a moving van of quarters & offers me half of everything I can carry to the bank I could probably carry a whole heck of a lot quite happily not caring that's not my job & probably not that unusual in that regard. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition (A5E)
How many coins is 1 bulky item & the real value of gems/trade goods
Top