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How many core classes can we expected in 4th ed?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mokona" data-source="post: 2922236" data-attributes="member: 24891"><p>I suspect <strong>Wizards of the Coast</strong> will put out a "basic" <strong>D&D</strong> core rulebook for 4th edition. Something in between the <em>D&D Basic Game</em>/<em>D&D Player's Kit</em> and the <em>Player's Handbook</em> v.3.5.</p><p></p><p>In this smaller <em>Player's Handbook</em> I'd expect only the first four classes: fighter, cleric, rogue, and wizard (though they've shown that they feel the sorcerer class is more new player friendly than wizard). On second thought they'll probably replace wizard with sorcerer which breaks with my personal desires based on nostalgia. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> </p><p></p><p>Given the success of the Complete series (or even the * [aka splat] books) the very first expansions released for 4th edition will be... <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /> </p><p></p><p>1. Martial Mastery - <em>Sword and Fist</em>, <em>Complete Warrior</em>, <em>Song and Silence</em>, and <em>Complete Adventurer</em> with a little bit of <em>Masters of the Wild</em> all rolled into one. This book would include barbarian, monk, paladin, and ranger. Probably some other stuff as well.</p><p></p><p>2. Spell Specialists - <em>Defenders of the Faith</em>, <em>Complete Divine</em>, <em>Tome and Blood</em>, <em>Complete Divine</em>, and little bits of <em>Complete Adventurer</em> and <em>Masters of the Wild</em> all rolled into one. This book would include bard, druid, wizard, and some other spellcasters.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately I expect every single prestige class concept and base class published in 3rd edition and v.3.5 to migrate into 4th edition. By spreading out some of the base stuff from the <em>Player's Handbook</em> into other books <strong>Wizards</strong> could sell a lot more books. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>I didn't include a separate "rogue" focused book nor a "divine/cleric" focused book above because, frankly, they aren't nearly as popular as the fighter and wizard books. After those two books are published a "complete series" book for more narrow specialties could be released for us dedicated players. The equivalent of <em>Complete Warrior II</em> or <em>Player's Guide to Fighters and Barbarians</em>.</p><p></p><p>PS: I rolled rogues into martial characters because all I ever see rogues do is flank opponents and dish out more damage (with sneak attack dice on primary and off hand weapons) than the party fighter. Except against undead when the rogue player might as well go sit in the corner. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mokona, post: 2922236, member: 24891"] I suspect [B]Wizards of the Coast[/B] will put out a "basic" [B]D&D[/B] core rulebook for 4th edition. Something in between the [I]D&D Basic Game[/I]/[I]D&D Player's Kit[/I] and the [I]Player's Handbook[/I] v.3.5. In this smaller [I]Player's Handbook[/I] I'd expect only the first four classes: fighter, cleric, rogue, and wizard (though they've shown that they feel the sorcerer class is more new player friendly than wizard). On second thought they'll probably replace wizard with sorcerer which breaks with my personal desires based on nostalgia. :( Given the success of the Complete series (or even the * [aka splat] books) the very first expansions released for 4th edition will be... :uhoh: 1. Martial Mastery - [I]Sword and Fist[/I], [I]Complete Warrior[/I], [I]Song and Silence[/I], and [I]Complete Adventurer[/I] with a little bit of [I]Masters of the Wild[/I] all rolled into one. This book would include barbarian, monk, paladin, and ranger. Probably some other stuff as well. 2. Spell Specialists - [I]Defenders of the Faith[/I], [I]Complete Divine[/I], [I]Tome and Blood[/I], [I]Complete Divine[/I], and little bits of [I]Complete Adventurer[/I] and [I]Masters of the Wild[/I] all rolled into one. This book would include bard, druid, wizard, and some other spellcasters. Ultimately I expect every single prestige class concept and base class published in 3rd edition and v.3.5 to migrate into 4th edition. By spreading out some of the base stuff from the [I]Player's Handbook[/I] into other books [B]Wizards[/B] could sell a lot more books. ;) I didn't include a separate "rogue" focused book nor a "divine/cleric" focused book above because, frankly, they aren't nearly as popular as the fighter and wizard books. After those two books are published a "complete series" book for more narrow specialties could be released for us dedicated players. The equivalent of [I]Complete Warrior II[/I] or [I]Player's Guide to Fighters and Barbarians[/I]. PS: I rolled rogues into martial characters because all I ever see rogues do is flank opponents and dish out more damage (with sneak attack dice on primary and off hand weapons) than the party fighter. Except against undead when the rogue player might as well go sit in the corner. :confused: [/QUOTE]
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