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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 2923613" data-attributes="member: 5100">I understand what you're saying.  I absolutely love to try new game systems.The thing is, that's what the world beyond D&D is for.  D&D really is the baseline, the easy-play game.  Classes help to make that possible.The "schtick" of D&D is that any schlub can sit down at the table and create a basic character in ten minutes.  Granted, with all the expansion material, you can complicate things to the point of making heads explode.  But, when you get down to it, you can introduce your girlfriend (to pick an example) to D&D and have her up and running, with a 1st level character of almost any class in about as much time as it takes to learn a typical high-end (Godstorm, Settlers of Catan, etc.) board game.  I know, because I've introduced a lot of people to gaming.If you look at Hero (chosen because I pulled out my 5th Ed book this weekend), you can build a character for someone and kinda get them up and running in about that length of time, but they're gonna be a bit lost as to why they're rolling the dice they need to roll, etc.  And that's for a fighter-type character.  Heaven help you if they want to be a wizard.Something else I've noticed about D&D is that the structure really does make it like riding a bike.  I took a seven or eight year hiatus from D&D, in the 90s, and went off to play WoD and Hero (among other games).  I'd even sold most of my books.  In 1999, I had a chance to join a 2E game, in process.  I didn't have any problem cracking open the PHB, creating a wizard of the appropriate level and being an active, constructive participant in the first session.  Looking at Hero, this weekend, I can safely say that I don't retain that sort of memory of the system after only a five year break since my last game.D&D is not, and should not be, the avante-gard game system.  It has a different niche, which it fills well.</blockquote>

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