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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sodalis" data-source="post: 231349" data-attributes="member: 1791">your clarification doesnt clear much up....not to be mean or anything-it justs asks who makes the beds (or clean the sheets- or actually produces them)i know that everyone reading this post knows what you are asking- but just want to be mean.to sum up: Does the DM or the players creates the characters?DM= dungeon master- or GODplayers= the person who RP a charactercharacter= the fictional vessel in which to RPmy answer wouldbe the individual players.  every player has an idea of what they want to play- and to force them into a character that they dont like is just askin for trouble.  I had a Dm that did that to me once.  We had a group that lacked a cleric.  But he loves clerics so he raped us by killing the PCs and then ask "you can be resurrected and take a lvl down, or play a cleric and stay at your current lvl."He killed me twice- so I decided to give up my Barb and played a cleric.  He was happy for a while- but I wasnt playing the cleirc the way he expected and so eventually railed me into playing an NPC in which he controled most the actions of- or told me what to do.  I just quitbasically if the players make the char- then they have an idea of how he is and how he behaves.  If the Dm makes it- the player cannot play to what the Dm expects- and so there is always room for conflict...</blockquote>