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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jessica" data-source="post: 6715297" data-attributes="member: 6796107">Back in 4e, I wanted to play an elven vampire type character(this was before Heroes of Shadow). I ended up making an Elf Predator Druid, fluffing my shapeshift form as my wolf form, changing the theme of the powers so they were more in line with a vampire, and taking the Dhampyr feats. It worked reasonably well for the time I think, but as soon as an actual Vampire class came out then I stopped worrying about reflavoring a vampire and actually using the Vampire class to play a vampire(well MCing into Vampire).I mean some character concepts might not need their own class(like your aforementioned Yeoman for instance), but some character concepts are a strong enough divergence away from existing character classes in order to kinda need their own class/subclass. I think Wardens are one of those classes because the two primary iconic things of that class(being insanely durable and transforming into anthropomorphic animal/plant forms when things get tough) are hard to get into the same class right now. Oath of Ancients Paladin, which I took to be the spiritual successor to Wardens in 5e), completely fails at being a Warden because it doesn't shape shift and it tends to be DEX-based when it wants to be in light armor and STR-based when it wants to be in heavy armor and the Warden is a STR-based character in light armor(like a Barbarian for instance). The Druid would seem the closest but even then you can't take on an anthropomorphic form(only a normal animal form).Also there are those of us(like myself), who have had incredibly bad experiences with DMs who crap all over you for doing reflavoring. I was doing AL and playing an Elf Necromancer who I had reflavored as being undead and I wasn't using it in anyway to gain a mechanical advantage(I guess except for not getting terminal diseases from eating dead people) until one day when I was almost level 5(i.e. the point of no return for redoing your character) he suddenly said "you're character isn't undead she just thinks she is undead" and in my mind I was like "ek-f***ing-scuse me!". I don't take kindly to other people rewriting my character concept for me. Especially when every other person I had ever played with at AL liked my character even if their characters may not have. Having an actual undead/revenant feat/race/whatever would have basically been a way to tell those people to go and get f***ed when they try to tell me who my character is and isn't.</blockquote>

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