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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 6655052" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>It's called False-consensus bias. It's the assumption that everyone's experiences must be the same as theirs.</p><p></p><p>They are wrong.</p><p></p><p>And now I will commence with contributing my anecdotal evidence that proves why they are wrong...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've been gaming since 1994. Longer than some, shorter than others. I've probably played with somewhere in the realm of 50 different people over that time. I have never played in any form of organized play - be it AL, RPGA, or anything else - and I've also never played at a gaming store or similar venue, or had the fortune of attending a convention. Of those people I played with, up to the point that I knew them, none of them had participated in any organized play either, nor had ever attended a convention. Only one actually played/ran games at a gaming store, but none of those games were official organized play either (local game, friends with the store owner, and not even always D&D).</p><p></p><p>And every single one of those players, including myself, have most certainly seen and used an obscene abundance of non-official materials, rulings, and approaches.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, my confirmation bias trumps their false-consensus bias. Case Closed.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses B-)" data-shortname="B-)" /><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/angel.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":angel:" title="Angel :angel:" data-shortname=":angel:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm having a hard time accepting this. Officially, 5E is a game designed with DM adjudication as an essential element of play. 5E is <em>officially</em> reliant on a DM. That's been stated by the designers in an official capacity many times. Based on that, I find it hard to believe that WotC would expect DM's to be robots with no leeway in how they run a game or solve problems.</p><p></p><p>Granted, I don't play AL; but this doesn't pass the sniff test for me. Basically, things like "have the DM fix it" or "have your DM homebrew it" really boil down to "Talk to your DM." I don't see why that would be any different just because it's organized play...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 6655052, member: 59506"] It's called False-consensus bias. It's the assumption that everyone's experiences must be the same as theirs. They are wrong. And now I will commence with contributing my anecdotal evidence that proves why they are wrong...:o:p I've been gaming since 1994. Longer than some, shorter than others. I've probably played with somewhere in the realm of 50 different people over that time. I have never played in any form of organized play - be it AL, RPGA, or anything else - and I've also never played at a gaming store or similar venue, or had the fortune of attending a convention. Of those people I played with, up to the point that I knew them, none of them had participated in any organized play either, nor had ever attended a convention. Only one actually played/ran games at a gaming store, but none of those games were official organized play either (local game, friends with the store owner, and not even always D&D). And every single one of those players, including myself, have most certainly seen and used an obscene abundance of non-official materials, rulings, and approaches. So, my confirmation bias trumps their false-consensus bias. Case Closed.B-):angel: I'm having a hard time accepting this. Officially, 5E is a game designed with DM adjudication as an essential element of play. 5E is [I]officially[/I] reliant on a DM. That's been stated by the designers in an official capacity many times. Based on that, I find it hard to believe that WotC would expect DM's to be robots with no leeway in how they run a game or solve problems. Granted, I don't play AL; but this doesn't pass the sniff test for me. Basically, things like "have the DM fix it" or "have your DM homebrew it" really boil down to "Talk to your DM." I don't see why that would be any different just because it's organized play... [/QUOTE]
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