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How many hands does a fighter-mage type need?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ancalagon" data-source="post: 6857413" data-attributes="member: 23"><p>Hello</p><p></p><p>(I know this was sort of discussed with in a bard thread but the issue got tangled with all sorts of weird bard-specific issues that I feel aren't relevant to the discussion. There is also the "shield as holy symbol" thing that I'll ignore for now).</p><p></p><p>So Lu-Po, the slugman eldrich knight, has been fighting with a halberd for a while. It's very convenient, whenever he wants to cast a spell he holds on to the halberd with the left hand and cast with his right. But Lu-Po has been getting hit a lot lately, and he's switched to a shield and talwar style. This is where it get a bit complicated.</p><p></p><p>The table on "interacting with object" in the combat chapter indicates that you can combine sheathing *or* (not both) drawing a weapon with an action or a move. So the following would be legal:</p><p></p><p>Round 1: Lu-Po draws his talwar and attacks the goblin chief three times, killing him.</p><p>Round 2: Lu-po sheathes this talwar and cast fireball on the fleeing goblins.</p><p></p><p>So far so good. But what about bonus actions and reactions?</p><p></p><p>Round 1: Lu-po sheathes his talwar to cast minor image to distract the goblins</p><p>Bonus action: Lu-po draws his sword to strike at the goblin chief</p><p>Reaction: the goblins are not fooled by the illusion and pelt Lu-po with arrows. To protect himself, he draws his sword and cast shield.</p><p></p><p>So, I think the *fundamental* question her is "can a character draw (or sheathe) a weapon as part of a bonus action/reaction". Because if he/she can, then weapon and shield is a valid style of fighting for a "gish". If he or she cannot, then unless you are "cheating" by having your shield be a focus, this style is *not* flexible enough and the character is better off with a 2-handed weapon, or a weapon in one hand and the other hand empty.</p><p></p><p>This is a bit sad because it would lessen the argument that the EK is good because of superior defensive potential.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ancalagon, post: 6857413, member: 23"] Hello (I know this was sort of discussed with in a bard thread but the issue got tangled with all sorts of weird bard-specific issues that I feel aren't relevant to the discussion. There is also the "shield as holy symbol" thing that I'll ignore for now). So Lu-Po, the slugman eldrich knight, has been fighting with a halberd for a while. It's very convenient, whenever he wants to cast a spell he holds on to the halberd with the left hand and cast with his right. But Lu-Po has been getting hit a lot lately, and he's switched to a shield and talwar style. This is where it get a bit complicated. The table on "interacting with object" in the combat chapter indicates that you can combine sheathing *or* (not both) drawing a weapon with an action or a move. So the following would be legal: Round 1: Lu-Po draws his talwar and attacks the goblin chief three times, killing him. Round 2: Lu-po sheathes this talwar and cast fireball on the fleeing goblins. So far so good. But what about bonus actions and reactions? Round 1: Lu-po sheathes his talwar to cast minor image to distract the goblins Bonus action: Lu-po draws his sword to strike at the goblin chief Reaction: the goblins are not fooled by the illusion and pelt Lu-po with arrows. To protect himself, he draws his sword and cast shield. So, I think the *fundamental* question her is "can a character draw (or sheathe) a weapon as part of a bonus action/reaction". Because if he/she can, then weapon and shield is a valid style of fighting for a "gish". If he or she cannot, then unless you are "cheating" by having your shield be a focus, this style is *not* flexible enough and the character is better off with a 2-handed weapon, or a weapon in one hand and the other hand empty. This is a bit sad because it would lessen the argument that the EK is good because of superior defensive potential. [/QUOTE]
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