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<blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 6290243" data-attributes="member: 17106">Interesting. It's an odd artifact of the game that players have character sheets with hit points and other information on them. In truth, those are all really the DM's purview, but the game has put some of the mechanics where the players can see them. In my eyes, this is largely to save bookkeeping, but I suspect it contributes to the people who think that players have certain rights pertaining to narrative control.It's also part of what raises this thread question. In most games, the DM will narrate damage in the context of health, and it could be argued that the players really shouldn't have any information other than that narration, which would reflect the hp mechanics, but not on a one-to-one basis. Instead, the players have the exact numbers, and we're left with the question of what that means.Yes, this is also an interesting and distinct topic. At some point it would be great if someone started a thread on assessing these types of things in other characters. In this case, by and large, the player and the character are in the same boat, because they will only glean knowledge from the DM and cannot see the underlying mechanics.Reminds me of a post I made a while back about how in a d20 Modern world, I think Joseph Mengele and his ilk could be seen as people who were trying to understand hit points with some of the experiments they did. In a way, the idea of understanding life and death is tied to the idea of people going too far in the pursuit of knowledge and committing horrific acts. In reality, there are laws that govern these things (though they're a good deal more complicated that D&amp;D rules), and they often can't be determined within the bounds of ethical and moral science.(This is my own off-topic diatribe).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ahnehnois, post: 6290243, member: 17106"] Interesting. It's an odd artifact of the game that players have character sheets with hit points and other information on them. In truth, those are all really the DM's purview, but the game has put some of the mechanics where the players can see them. In my eyes, this is largely to save bookkeeping, but I suspect it contributes to the people who think that players have certain rights pertaining to narrative control. It's also part of what raises this thread question. In most games, the DM will narrate damage in the context of health, and it could be argued that the players really shouldn't have any information other than that narration, which would reflect the hp mechanics, but not on a one-to-one basis. Instead, the players have the exact numbers, and we're left with the question of what that means. Yes, this is also an interesting and distinct topic. At some point it would be great if someone started a thread on assessing these types of things in other characters. In this case, by and large, the player and the character are in the same boat, because they will only glean knowledge from the DM and cannot see the underlying mechanics. Reminds me of a post I made a while back about how in a d20 Modern world, I think Joseph Mengele and his ilk could be seen as people who were trying to understand hit points with some of the experiments they did. In a way, the idea of understanding life and death is tied to the idea of people going too far in the pursuit of knowledge and committing horrific acts. In reality, there are laws that govern these things (though they're a good deal more complicated that D&D rules), and they often can't be determined within the bounds of ethical and moral science. (This is my own off-topic diatribe). [/QUOTE]

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