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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 6294991" data-attributes="member: 29398">IME training was almost universally used.&nbsp; Different communities, I guess.&nbsp; True in terms of strict level numbers, but the veteran characters would still have more - or much more - wealth, unless they were unusually generous.True, though traps (much more prevalent in 1e) and magic could still ruin your day pretty quick.&nbsp; That's almost an apples-and-oranges comparison, as not that many 1e games ever got to 15th level (the system kind of petered out around 10th-12th).&nbsp; 3e was designed to go to 20, and a 15th-level 3e type is, relative to the system, about the same as about an 8th or 9th level in 1e.&nbsp; But you're right about the monsters, for the most part, at least by RAW.That said, you're speaking to a tangential point to what's in play here: the difference between 1st and 10th levels in 1e vs. the same difference in 3e-4e.&nbsp; 1st-level in both 1e and 3e is reasonably close to the same thing, but the scaling curve in 1e is simply not as steep, and if anything you have it backward: in 1e a 10th-level fighter was relatively weaker in comparison to a 1st-level than she would be in 3e; and as that's about as high as the game usually went the overall top-to-bottom power window (for lack of a better term) was much narrower.&nbsp; I don't mind this.Lanefan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 6294991, member: 29398"] IME training was almost universally used. Different communities, I guess. True in terms of strict level numbers, but the veteran characters would still have more - or much more - wealth, unless they were unusually generous. True, though traps (much more prevalent in 1e) and magic could still ruin your day pretty quick. That's almost an apples-and-oranges comparison, as not that many 1e games ever got to 15th level (the system kind of petered out around 10th-12th). 3e was designed to go to 20, and a 15th-level 3e type is, relative to the system, about the same as about an 8th or 9th level in 1e. But you're right about the monsters, for the most part, at least by RAW. That said, you're speaking to a tangential point to what's in play here: the difference between 1st and 10th levels in 1e vs. the same difference in 3e-4e. 1st-level in both 1e and 3e is reasonably close to the same thing, but the scaling curve in 1e is simply not as steep, and if anything you have it backward: in 1e a 10th-level fighter was relatively weaker in comparison to a 1st-level than she would be in 3e; and as that's about as high as the game usually went the overall top-to-bottom power window (for lack of a better term) was much narrower. I don't mind this. Lanefan [/QUOTE]

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