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<blockquote data-quote="enigma5915" data-source="post: 5880843" data-attributes="member: 60095"><p><strong>it wouldn't be D&D...?</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: white"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">In response to the various statements that changing hit points would change the game so that it wouldn't be D&D… D&D has gone through many changes over the editions. Saving throws are very different from 2e to 3e and even more so in 4e. THAC0 went away and was replaced by a Base Attack Bonus. Cleric spell level cap went from 7 to 9. Racial level limits went away. Dual classing went away. Multi-classing has been radically different for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. Combat roles and healing surges did not exist until 4e. My point here is that any one of these changes can be construed as to have made the game no longer be “D&D”. </span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: white"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> What makes the game “be D&D” is relative and not necessarily pertinent. My point is strictly about the absurdity of Hit points and possible alternatives. I will write up a brief conceptual alternative shortly. And yes, I’ve heard of these other game and have played many of them, thanks for pointing them out. But if D&D is going through another iteration, then I would think it cool to have something alternative to the unimaginative and lazy hit points. And just because Hit points are copied in other systems and computer games does not prove the concept works or is decent. It just proves that others are not coming up with something new and using the same busted system.</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="enigma5915, post: 5880843, member: 60095"] [b]it wouldn't be D&D...?[/b] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#000000][COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana]In response to the various statements that changing hit points would change the game so that it wouldn't be D&D… D&D has gone through many changes over the editions. Saving throws are very different from 2e to 3e and even more so in 4e. THAC0 went away and was replaced by a Base Attack Bonus. Cleric spell level cap went from 7 to 9. Racial level limits went away. Dual classing went away. Multi-classing has been radically different for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. Combat roles and healing surges did not exist until 4e. My point here is that any one of these changes can be construed as to have made the game no longer be “D&D”. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana] What makes the game “be D&D” is relative and not necessarily pertinent. My point is strictly about the absurdity of Hit points and possible alternatives. I will write up a brief conceptual alternative shortly. And yes, I’ve heard of these other game and have played many of them, thanks for pointing them out. But if D&D is going through another iteration, then I would think it cool to have something alternative to the unimaginative and lazy hit points. And just because Hit points are copied in other systems and computer games does not prove the concept works or is decent. It just proves that others are not coming up with something new and using the same busted system.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [/COLOR][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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