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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Smeelbo" data-source="post: 5133946" data-attributes="member: 81898">Again, 15 sounds right to me, in my experience. Every D&D campaign I ever played in that went past 15 was not believable: magic dominated to the exclusion of all else, and the world was just crazy. Every D&D campaign I ever played in that didn't go much past 9th level worked just fine. I've done the first ten levels of D&D so many times now, that it just feels like D&D to me. I am not convinced "epic" play works, and it doesn't even interest me any more. My first D&D campaign back in the 70's blew up at 28th level. Our second campaign went to 15th, and could have gone a little further, I think. Since then, nothing past 12th level has worked for me.  This has been true for every edition of D&D I've played, including 4E. Smeelbo</blockquote>