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Message: <blockquote data-quote="demiurge1138" data-source="post: 2911969" data-attributes="member: 7451">The controversy over the MMIV (which, like all good internet controversies, is raging without almost any of the participants having seen the book at hand) has gotten me thinking. I love monster books. Collect 'em. But how much of them actually see use in my games? I will compare and contrast the amount of monsters in the MM 3.5 that I've used. This will be exceedingly longwinded, so spoiler tags will be used extensively. Final tallies will be posted. Results will be inferenced.Oh, and I'm counting advanced versions and sample templated/advanced examples seperately. I won't count every time I've used the vampire template as a seperate use, for instance, but if I've used one of the sample vampires in the MM, I'll count it. And true dragons count as one. Same for elementals.I've used:[sblock=Monster Manual 3.5]AchaieraiAllipAngel, SolarAnimated Object, Small, Medium, LargeAnkhegAraneaAssassin VineAzerBarghest and Greater BarghestGreater Abyssal BasiliskBehirBeholderBeholder, GauthBelkerBodakBugbearCelestial TemplateChimeraChokerChuulCloakerCockatriceDelverDemon, BabauDemon, BalorDemon, BebilithDemon, DretchDemon, HezrouDemon, QuasitDemon, SuccubusDemon, VrockDerroDestrachanDevil, BarbedDevil, BeardedDevil, BoneDevil, ChainDevil, HornedDevil, IceDevil, Imp,Devil, Lemure,Devil, Pit FiendDigesterDinosaur, DinonychusDire ApeDire BoarDire RatDire WeaselDire WolfDisplacer BeastDisplacer Beast PacklordDoppelgangerBlack DragonRed DragonSilver DragonDriderDryadDwarfAir ElementalEarth ElementalFire ElementalElfElf, DrowEttercapEttinFiendish CreatureFungus, ShriekerGargoyleGenie, EfreetGhostGhoulGhastGiant, HillGibbering MoutherGirallonGithyankiGnollGnomeGoblinGolem, FleshGolem, IronGray RenderGrickGrimlockHag, SeaHalf-DragonHalf-FiendHalflingHarpyHell HoundHobgoblinHowlerHydra - 5, 7, 10 headedInvisible StalkerKoboldKrensharKuo-toaLichSample 11th level Wizard lichLizardfolkLycanthrope templateLycanthrope, WereratLycanthrope, WerewolfManticoreMephit, DustMephit, FireMephit, IceMephit, SaltMimicMind FlayerMinotaurMorghMummyMummy Lord, 10th level clericDark NagaNight HagNightmareNightshade, NightcrawlerNightshade, NightwalkerOgreOoze, Black PuddingOoze, Elder Black PuddingOoze, Gelatinous CubeOoze, GrayOrcOtyughOwlbearPlanetouched, AasimarPlanetouched, TieflingPseudodragonPurple WormRakshasaRavidRemorhazRust MonsterSalamander, AverageShadowShadow, GreaterShadow MastiffShambling MoundShield GuardianSkeleton TemplateSkeleton, Human WarriorSkeleton, TrollSkumSlaad, BlueSlaad, GreenSlaad, DeathSpectreStirgeSwarm, BatSwarm, RatSwarm, SpiderTendriculosThoqquaTreantTroglodyteTrollUmber HulkTruly Horrid Umber HulkVampire templateVampire SpawnVargouilleWightWorgWraithWraith, DreadWyvernXorn, AverageYthrakZombie templateHuman ZombieTroglodyte ZombieBugbear Zombie (named Chumley)ApeBear, BrownCrocodileCrocodile, GiantDog, RidingWarhorse, HeavyHyenaLionLizard, MonitorMonkeyOctopus, GiantRhinocerasShark, MediumShark, LargeSnake, ConstrictorSnake, Tiny ViperSnake, Large ViperSquid, GiantWolfGiant Praying MantisGiant WaspMontrous Centipede, HugeMonstrous Scorpion, MediumMonstrous Spider, Small, Medium, Large[/sblock]So, out of 458 monsters I counted (not counting elementals or dragon age categories, mind), I've used 202 of them. That's a total of 44% of the monsters in the MM I've used. Neat, huh?What does this have to do with anything? Well, the MM 3.5 is certainly the high mark of my monster usage. As much as I love my Tomes of Horror, my MM 2 and 3, the Fiend Folio, even my poor abused copy of Monsters of Faerun... none of them have likely seen anything approaching a 44% use-rate....not that I really know what that has to do with the MMIV. I think. Maybe what I'm saying is, if the creatures there are useful, it'll still be worth it, despite the lower number of unique monsters? I'm not even sure anymore. That list took a long time.So, how many monsters have you used? Is 44% about the magic number? Or has someone actually used every monster in one of their books?Demiurge out.</blockquote>

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