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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 6057733" data-attributes="member: 1165">In 3.x, skill ranks are worth more than stat points.Einstein would be a high-level (ish) expert, say 10th-level, with a starting Int of 18 (so 20 by 10th-level) plus add 1 or 2 points for age... and he has Skill Focus (Knowledge (theoretical physics)) too plus maxed out ranks.That would give him:13 ranks+6 Int (assuming he's about 60, but perhaps he was a bit younger when he did his best work)+3 feat+2 from a &quot;mastercraft&quot; library (his &quot;toolkit&quot;)Total bonus: +24. He can regularly hit DC 35 skill checks.If we were using d20 Modern instead, which lets you cheese skill scores much more easily, he might have 10 levels in Smart. No Skill Focus (it's a Dedicated talent) but the Educated feat gives him a +2 bonus instead.Add a +10 level bonus from the Savant talent. Yes, the talent gives you +1 per Smart level. That gives him a bonus of +31!To really optimize this, trade out one level of Smart for one level of Dedicated, and take Skill Emphasis, which stacks which Educated. That lets him squeeze an extra 2 point bonus out of the system, so +33. He's hitting DC 43 skill checks on a regular basis, and can sometimes even hit DC 50 without even spending action points. (At absolute max, assuming only a +2 library bonus, he could hit a DC of 59 if he rolls max on an action point. If he can squeeze one more point out of this, or just take another level, and he could win (another?) Nobel Prize by getting a 60. I think Field Scientist might give extra skill bonuses, but it doesn't optimize the same way the Savant talent does.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 6057733, member: 1165"] In 3.x, skill ranks are worth more than stat points. Einstein would be a high-level (ish) expert, say 10th-level, with a starting Int of 18 (so 20 by 10th-level) plus add 1 or 2 points for age... and he has Skill Focus (Knowledge (theoretical physics)) too plus maxed out ranks. That would give him: 13 ranks +6 Int (assuming he's about 60, but perhaps he was a bit younger when he did his best work) +3 feat +2 from a "mastercraft" library (his "toolkit") Total bonus: +24. He can regularly hit DC 35 skill checks. If we were using d20 Modern instead, which lets you cheese skill scores much more easily, he might have 10 levels in Smart. No Skill Focus (it's a Dedicated talent) but the Educated feat gives him a +2 bonus instead. Add a +10 level bonus from the Savant talent. Yes, the talent gives you +1 per Smart level. That gives him a bonus of +31! To really optimize this, trade out one level of Smart for one level of Dedicated, and take Skill Emphasis, which stacks which Educated. That lets him squeeze an extra 2 point bonus out of the system, so +33. He's hitting DC 43 skill checks on a regular basis, and can sometimes even hit DC 50 without even spending action points. (At absolute max, assuming only a +2 library bonus, he could hit a DC of [b]59[/b] if he rolls max on an action point. If he can squeeze one more point out of this, or just take another level, and he could win (another?) Nobel Prize by getting a 60. I think Field Scientist might give extra skill bonuses, but it doesn't optimize the same way the Savant talent does.) [/QUOTE]

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