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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zenon" data-source="post: 310482" data-attributes="member: 352">[Puts on asbestos suit before entering thread]Not to get in the middle of anything here, but I noticed something in the DMG last night while persusing it (sorry, don't have it with me here to give a pg number to reference or exact quote, so I'll paraphrase):In the section on or around pg 70 something and up, where all the different types of damage and abilities are talked about.Under the Dragon Breath it said something like this (paraphrase):A Dragon doesn't need to make a roll when it breathes, the stated area is filled. Creatures in the area need to save. (Zenon comments - to me, this is much like an area effect spell of fireball, etc)Then then went on in the text where someone dove under a table, ducked behing a wall, but the one that stuck out to me was this one:"and X covers her face with her arms" (near quote).This to me implied that even with nowhere to go, the act of covering your vunerable and exposed parts with something, even other body parts of yours which were less vunerable, armored, etc. gave you the ability to make your save. It had nothing to do with getting out of an area, having something to hide under, etc. It would explain why, if you were pinned, that you might not get a save, or why a restrictive 2 1/2' shaft might not give you a save.Just thought I'd try to contribute something here for consideration, everyone can go back to the normally scheduled argument [For the humor-impared, the preceeding comment was an attempt at humor. If you did not understand the humor, do not panic. Walk, not run, to the nearest comedian for treatment].</blockquote>

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