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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6721645" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Quite a few, unfortunately. Two out of the 4-6 tables we've had at our FLGS on Wed nights for a long time, for instance, they both turned into ongoing campaigns between editions, and just haven't run their course, two more tables on the weekend. A comparable number of PF players, what I hear from them is that 5e is fine, nothing about it makes them want to burn Mike Mearls in effigy or anything, but nothing much makes them want to play it instead of Pathfinder, either. </p><p></p><p>I do suspect that most 4e players will come around as their ongoing campaigns finish, and they notice there hasn't been a book out in 3 years and finally find something new/shiny in 5e and go 'oh, this looks cool...' :shrug:</p><p></p><p>PF fans, though, as long as Piazo keeps making stuff, maybe rolls out a PF 2.0, why would they?</p><p></p><p>That matches my experience. Most of the new players I've had who have stuck with 5e had previously played 2e, or even were playing for the first time, but had been exposed to the game back in the 80s. AD&D, when you think about it (1e & 2e were /very/ similar), had a run from 1977 to 1999, it's the most definitive version of D&D, and the one 5e most tries to evoke the feel (if, blessedly, not all the mechanics) of, and the one version most past players have the most experience with. </p><p></p><p>I, OTOH, have been with the game since 1980 and played & enjoyed every edition, though so am in group (2) - at least, as a DM.</p><p></p><p>I haven't heard the last complaint much (I've heard price complaints from people who /have/ switched, and a lot of them buy the books from Amazon as a result), but aside from that, yes, those seem fairly straightforward reasons. I'd expand on (2) a little to say that 5e either doesn't give them enough of what 'their edition' does, or does something 'wrong' from that PoV. A 3.5 fan might find 5e limited with too few choices & no respect for RAW, a 4e fan might find it lacking specific options & 'broken' with imbalanced classes, encounters, & magic items.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6721645, member: 996"] Quite a few, unfortunately. Two out of the 4-6 tables we've had at our FLGS on Wed nights for a long time, for instance, they both turned into ongoing campaigns between editions, and just haven't run their course, two more tables on the weekend. A comparable number of PF players, what I hear from them is that 5e is fine, nothing about it makes them want to burn Mike Mearls in effigy or anything, but nothing much makes them want to play it instead of Pathfinder, either. I do suspect that most 4e players will come around as their ongoing campaigns finish, and they notice there hasn't been a book out in 3 years and finally find something new/shiny in 5e and go 'oh, this looks cool...' :shrug: PF fans, though, as long as Piazo keeps making stuff, maybe rolls out a PF 2.0, why would they? That matches my experience. Most of the new players I've had who have stuck with 5e had previously played 2e, or even were playing for the first time, but had been exposed to the game back in the 80s. AD&D, when you think about it (1e & 2e were /very/ similar), had a run from 1977 to 1999, it's the most definitive version of D&D, and the one 5e most tries to evoke the feel (if, blessedly, not all the mechanics) of, and the one version most past players have the most experience with. I, OTOH, have been with the game since 1980 and played & enjoyed every edition, though so am in group (2) - at least, as a DM. I haven't heard the last complaint much (I've heard price complaints from people who /have/ switched, and a lot of them buy the books from Amazon as a result), but aside from that, yes, those seem fairly straightforward reasons. I'd expand on (2) a little to say that 5e either doesn't give them enough of what 'their edition' does, or does something 'wrong' from that PoV. A 3.5 fan might find 5e limited with too few choices & no respect for RAW, a 4e fan might find it lacking specific options & 'broken' with imbalanced classes, encounters, & magic items. [/QUOTE]
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