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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5697608" data-attributes="member: 22779">See, Xechnao, there's a significant difference in how the data is being questioned.&nbsp; The ICV2 numbers, by their own admission don't include a significant segment of the hobby.&nbsp; The only thing we can determine by those numbers is the print versions of Pathfinder are doing better than the print elements of WOTC D&amp;D during a quarter.&nbsp; That's it.&nbsp; That's all we can determine.Now, the Subscriber numbers on the WOTC site only tell us one thing - how many subscribers have also signed into the forum.&nbsp; Again, these are total voodoo numbers.&nbsp; About the only thing we can tell is that the number is growing.You are right that WOTC potentially could be inflating the sub numbers.&nbsp; However, it's not exactly likely.&nbsp; For one, you can actually view the members.&nbsp; Now, of course WOTC staffers have memberships, and that's easily visible.&nbsp; If the memberships were being spawned by some sort of bot, you'd get all sorts of names that would be pretty obvious that they were being faked.And, again, what would be the point?&nbsp; They'd have to spawn thousands of memberships to make any appreciable difference and that sort of thing gets caught pretty easily.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5697608, member: 22779"] See, Xechnao, there's a significant difference in how the data is being questioned. The ICV2 numbers, [I]by their own admission[/I] don't include a significant segment of the hobby. The only thing we can determine by those numbers is the print versions of Pathfinder are doing better than the print elements of WOTC D&D during a quarter. That's it. That's all we can determine. Now, the Subscriber numbers on the WOTC site only tell us one thing - how many subscribers have also signed into the forum. Again, these are total voodoo numbers. About the only thing we can tell is that the number is growing. You are right that WOTC [I]potentially could[/I] be inflating the sub numbers. However, it's not exactly likely. For one, you can actually view the members. Now, of course WOTC staffers have memberships, and that's easily visible. If the memberships were being spawned by some sort of bot, you'd get all sorts of names that would be pretty obvious that they were being faked. And, again, what would be the point? They'd have to spawn thousands of memberships to make any appreciable difference and that sort of thing gets caught pretty easily. [/QUOTE]

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