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<blockquote data-quote="Ondath" data-source="post: 8663214" data-attributes="member: 7031770">You're simply historically wrong. Capitalism as a mode of production developed in the pre-modern period, and there were millennia of human history before that. We might have had markets and trade before, but the way those concepts worked in pre-modern societies is completely different from what they came to mean in Europe from 16th century onwards. Thinking that capitalism is a natural facet of our existence that did not come about historically is basically capitalist ideology making its tenets invisible. Or as Zizek put it:<img src="https://media1.giphy.com/media/12WLJVZoDpUrSg/200.gif" alt="slavoj zizek philosophy GIF" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />(and just to make sure what I'm saying isn't ignored as some left-wing unconfirmed thinkpiece, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_capitalism" target="_blank">here's the Wikipedia article for the history of capitalism</a>, for which there would be no need if capitalism was prehistoric)There were games use for gambling, yes. But I highly, highly doubt chess was one of them. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_chess#Origin" target="_blank">In fact, historical records say that chess was used for courtly education and not gambling.</a> It was a game used for pastime in the upper classes. Once again, I can see an argument being made for chesspieces and other materials being commodities back then, but the game itself was not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ondath, post: 8663214, member: 7031770"] You're simply historically wrong. Capitalism as a mode of production developed in the pre-modern period, and there were millennia of human history before that. We might have had markets and trade before, but the way those concepts worked in pre-modern societies is completely different from what they came to mean in Europe from 16th century onwards. Thinking that capitalism is a natural facet of our existence that did not come about historically is basically capitalist ideology making its tenets invisible. Or as Zizek put it: [IMG alt="slavoj zizek philosophy GIF"]https://media1.giphy.com/media/12WLJVZoDpUrSg/200.gif[/IMG] (and just to make sure what I'm saying isn't ignored as some left-wing unconfirmed thinkpiece, [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_capitalism']here's the Wikipedia article for the history of capitalism[/URL], for which there would be no need if capitalism was prehistoric) There were games use for gambling, yes. But I highly, highly doubt chess was one of them. [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_chess#Origin']In fact, historical records say that chess was used for courtly education and not gambling.[/URL] It was a game used for pastime in the upper classes. Once again, I can see an argument being made for chesspieces and other materials being commodities back then, but the game itself was not. [/QUOTE]

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