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Message: <blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 570949" data-attributes="member: 812">Reward? Why do you assume a level of a prestige class is a reward? Isn't it just what a player has the right to acquire in exchange for the XP they receive? XP, that's a reward. But a class level? I don't get it.Prestige class levels are no more or less a "reward" than core class levels. Once you've decided that a given prestige class is appropriate for your campaign, how is taking a level in it a reward?Again with the weird choice of words. "Need"? They don't NEED to be involved. If I say to them, "You can't be involved in PrC design," then they'll just say, "Fine." I can't imagine players arguing that they NEED to be involved.Now I like to have my players involved in lots of design work all over my campaign. Why should I have to do all the thinking? And why not incorporate their suggestions and speculations? They are reasonably intelligent, after all (that's why I'm playing with them) and they happen to have a similar gaming attitude to me (that's also why I'm playing with them), so why wouldn't they be able to come up with cool ideas that fit right in?Often they don't even know they're helping. Many times I just listen in on their conversations and jot down their better speculations. Sometimes I want their input before I decide on something -- maybe just as simple as "Check the math on this, did I get it right?"So if a player came to you and said, "Hey, I'm just dying to play a duelist. Honestly, I just really want that Canny Defense and Precise Strike. It'll be soooooo cool!" you would honestly tell them that they've got enough options already and should just be grateful for what they get? I mean, it's your campaign and you need to do what you think is best, but I try to make sure all my players have fun and if Fred explained that he would be having more fun with a given prestige class, I would make an effort to meet him half-way on that.Maybe you can afford to turn good players away. I play with my buddies and I want everyone to have fun. I also happen to think that when playing a game, if you're having fun, you're doing it right.Do you seriously have this problem with the people you game with? My sympathies. I'm lucky enough to have players who understand that they can come to me with their ideas and I'll make every effort to give them what they want.They also understand that I will fiendishly twist and distort their desires into hideous grotesqueries that drive them insane and seet the entire world against them unjustly. That's why they love me so much.</blockquote>

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