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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gaiden" data-source="post: 2048920" data-attributes="member: 103">*Smiles at the compliment* Thanks for the props <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.  I was rather proud of myself and thought that might entertain the board's interlopers.  I am not sure how much you have seen the combo classes in action (it sounds like you haven't) and I am not sure how well you know the mechanics of the game and balance issues.  I will preface what I am about to say with reference to gestalt characters.  Gestalt characters appear to be ridiculous to any non-newbie.  Experienced players wouldn't want such characters (I would imagine) because you would be so powerful that "challenges" would cease to actually be challenging.  At least, it would appear that way.  I would predict that actually gestalt characters would not be as powerful as you mgiht think.  I still would never allow them - all I am saying is that appearances can be deceiving.  What appears to be brokenly powerful, may not be as powerful as appears on paper.  The eldrich knight is sort of the epitome of this.  Compare a straight Paladin 10 /Sorcerer 10 to a Paladin 5/Sorcerer 5/Eldrich Knight 10.  Compared to a single classed Paladin or Sorcerer, both the core class combo and PrC combo are underpowered.  The Pal 10/Sor 10 has a BAB of only +15 and can only cast 5th level spells which, even with practiced spellcaster will always be lower than the CL of his opponents (meaning dispelling will almost always work if nothing else).  Even the Pal 5/Sor 5/E.K. 10 is less powerful than either straight class.  To make this combo really work, I would go Pal 4, Sor 6, E.K. 10 to get divine might from the turns, and the ability to get 8th level spells while maintaing a reasonably high caster level (w/P.SpC).  Perhaps the only way you'll be convinced is by actually seeing how much the 2E multiclass PrC tracks suck in game.  I have seen a monk/psion, rogue/wizard, and fighter/wizard all of which blew hairy chunks.  The characters were utterly worthless in combat situations at low levels (1-8) and the players never felt like they ever did anything special.  In time, their combos would somewhat balance out, but even then, they would always be behind the eight ball.I would be lying if I said that I never play class combos.  In fact, my favorite character concepts are all combos:  A fighter/sorcerer/blood magus/black guard, a pal/sorc/E.K., a monk/cler/S.F., a wizard/candlecaster/fighter/bladesinger...I could go on.  I have scores of special NPC's designed that capitalize on these combos.  Typically, if prepared, a multiclass spellcaster can increase his other class's potential to a significant enough degree to overcome the drawbacks.  It is important to recognize that this is all well and good for BBEG's who have plenty of time to prepare, to ambush, and to be warned of the goodguys attacking their fortress.  However, many times none of the above will be possible for the heroes.In short, I would not be too harsh on the multiclass PrC's - they are really not that powerful.</blockquote>

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