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<blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 449902" data-attributes="member: 3051">It's impossible to take a PrC at level 1 since you have no abilities, and therefore no way to meet any prerequisites.&nbsp; Since you never spend any time as a 0-level character, that means your first level must be a core class.It's possible to create a PrC that has low enough requirements to be met at level 1.&nbsp; It's not how they're supposed to be designed, and it might not be a good idea, but it's possible.Therefore, it's possible to take 19 Prestige Classes.&nbsp; At least until the Epic rules, anyway.As for the other discussion, about changing rules mid-stream: I think there are times when it needs to be done.&nbsp; You might not realize how powerful/broken certain spells or abilities are until you've seen them in practice (*cough*HARM*cough*).&nbsp; So, your DM SHOULD be able to say that Polymorph Other is broken as-is.&nbsp; You might not agree, so you might try to change his mind, but it's his call.HOWEVER.&nbsp; Just flat-out saying &quot;no, you're screwed, too bad&quot; is just bad DMing.&nbsp; The DM needs to do one of the following:1&gt; Work with the player to create a variant that both can live with.&nbsp; If he doesn't like the permanent nature of Polymorph Other, would you as a player be willing to live with a 1 hour/level duration?&nbsp; IMC to reduce its usefulness as a buffing spell we added a Teleport-like randomness (if it's a form you're not familiar with you're less likely to get it right), and then added a Polymorph Other Without Error at level 6.2&gt; If they can't come to an agreement, allow the player to retroactively change as much of their character as is needed to follow a different path.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Spatzimaus, post: 449902, member: 3051"] It's impossible to take a PrC at level 1 since you have no abilities, and therefore no way to meet any prerequisites. Since you never spend any time as a 0-level character, that means your first level must be a core class. It's possible to create a PrC that has low enough requirements to be met at level 1. It's not how they're supposed to be designed, and it might not be a good idea, but it's possible. Therefore, it's possible to take 19 Prestige Classes. At least until the Epic rules, anyway. As for the other discussion, about changing rules mid-stream: I think there are times when it needs to be done. You might not realize how powerful/broken certain spells or abilities are until you've seen them in practice (*cough*HARM*cough*). So, your DM SHOULD be able to say that Polymorph Other is broken as-is. You might not agree, so you might try to change his mind, but it's his call. HOWEVER. Just flat-out saying "no, you're screwed, too bad" is just bad DMing. The DM needs to do one of the following: 1> Work with the player to create a variant that both can live with. If he doesn't like the permanent nature of Polymorph Other, would you as a player be willing to live with a 1 hour/level duration? IMC to reduce its usefulness as a buffing spell we added a Teleport-like randomness (if it's a form you're not familiar with you're less likely to get it right), and then added a Polymorph Other Without Error at level 6. 2> If they can't come to an agreement, allow the player to retroactively change as much of their character as is needed to follow a different path. [/QUOTE]

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