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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 5820438" data-attributes="member: 63508"><p>Roles are a combination of Functions. One of the biggest mistakes of 4e is not being clear with the functions of the biggest. Among other things.</p><p></p><p>Players and DMs will have to kowtow partially to WotC's vision. D&D will always use classes. 80% of the Functions will be tied into a class feature or have its effective based on the class performing the function. </p><p></p><p>Traditional being a Meatshield requires High AC and High Armor. Traditional rogues don't have high AC and high HP. So if you want your rogue to function as a Meatshield, you'll have to roll high, spend feats, or multiclass. Now it would be a Heavy with a Meatshield focus. He might not be able to perform all the functions of a Heavy until he reaches higher levels. To be a complete Heavy at lower levels, the character would have to pick a class with Heavy as their natural role.</p><p></p><p>I want the designers to have natural roles for the classes in mind and make sure every class/race has a uniques collection of natural functions. But each class should be allowed to fulfill functions outside of their natural functions and have roles outside of their natural roles. Of course, they can't write any of this in the books as D&D fans don't like being told what to do. But they should keep roles and functions, natural and additional, in the back of their minds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 5820438, member: 63508"] Roles are a combination of Functions. One of the biggest mistakes of 4e is not being clear with the functions of the biggest. Among other things. Players and DMs will have to kowtow partially to WotC's vision. D&D will always use classes. 80% of the Functions will be tied into a class feature or have its effective based on the class performing the function. Traditional being a Meatshield requires High AC and High Armor. Traditional rogues don't have high AC and high HP. So if you want your rogue to function as a Meatshield, you'll have to roll high, spend feats, or multiclass. Now it would be a Heavy with a Meatshield focus. He might not be able to perform all the functions of a Heavy until he reaches higher levels. To be a complete Heavy at lower levels, the character would have to pick a class with Heavy as their natural role. I want the designers to have natural roles for the classes in mind and make sure every class/race has a uniques collection of natural functions. But each class should be allowed to fulfill functions outside of their natural functions and have roles outside of their natural roles. Of course, they can't write any of this in the books as D&D fans don't like being told what to do. But they should keep roles and functions, natural and additional, in the back of their minds. [/QUOTE]
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