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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kalendraf" data-source="post: 1361396" data-attributes="member: 3433">For the record, in my last campaign, the party consisted of 6 characters around 11th level.  We were heading thru Hell in Freeport which can really be a killer adventure if the party isn't careful.  In one encounter, there were 8 shadows that were hiding in the walls of a narrow passageway.  The lead party member (rogue, IIRC) was a few feet ahead searching for traps.  Suddenly the shadows swarmed him, and they had drained him into shadow-dom before the rest of the party could react.  Had it been even one less shadow, the guy probably would have lived, but with 8, they got in enough attacks with flanking bonuses to hit him.  Otherwise, he had one of the better touch attack AC's due to his high dex and other equipment.With the way the party had dispatched other undead in previous encounters, I really didn't worry too much about this lone encounter.  But it was so deviously placed that it caught them completely off-guard and toasted this PC.  This wasn't a glorious death, and there really wasn't much that the player could have done to prevent it.  As a player, this is the type of death that would infuriate me.  As a DM, I don't like to kill PCs that way either.  It's too much like a lightning bolt from the heavens crashing down and killing them w/o recourse.  My suggestion is to be somewhat careful with how many shadows you toss at the party.  If you're going to throw 8 or more at them, I'd recommend at least some kind of subtle clue as to the pending danger somewhat so that they can take some kind of countermeasures.</blockquote>

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