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<blockquote data-quote="Ahglock" data-source="post: 6886255" data-attributes="member: 56725"><p>I don't think 5e is balanced in the sense of strict mechanical balance so when a class looses a feature it suddenly is weaker than the rest.&nbsp; Like losing adding spells to your spell book, which is a wizards big spell casting style perk IMO.&nbsp; Its his thing as much as a sorcerers metamagic is their thing. But 5e seems to be balanced under the assumption that unless you build to fail you will function and do perfectly fine.&nbsp; If there is some weird competition going on where players are counting who did the most DPS that's more a issue with them than the system. A sorcerer without metamagic would function, a barbarian without rage would function, they wouldn't be optimal but they would function.&nbsp; Knowing your plan in advance which sounds fun to me the players need to decide, do they want to build a character that thrives in that environment with no hit to effectiveness or build a character that is challenged by it.&nbsp; Both will do fine and unless there is some competition issue they should both have fun though for different reasons.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Ahglock, post: 6886255, member: 56725"] I don't think 5e is balanced in the sense of strict mechanical balance so when a class looses a feature it suddenly is weaker than the rest. Like losing adding spells to your spell book, which is a wizards big spell casting style perk IMO. Its his thing as much as a sorcerers metamagic is their thing. But 5e seems to be balanced under the assumption that unless you build to fail you will function and do perfectly fine. If there is some weird competition going on where players are counting who did the most DPS that's more a issue with them than the system. A sorcerer without metamagic would function, a barbarian without rage would function, they wouldn't be optimal but they would function. Knowing your plan in advance which sounds fun to me the players need to decide, do they want to build a character that thrives in that environment with no hit to effectiveness or build a character that is challenged by it. Both will do fine and unless there is some competition issue they should both have fun though for different reasons. [/QUOTE]

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