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<blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 6887050" data-attributes="member: 6750235">That's not really an issue when the PHB spells per level give twice as many spells and the wizard can simply focus on spells that scale well or retain value at higher levels. Typically, finding scrolls and spell books is isn't common and contains duplicates or junk.&nbsp; Scribing spells tends to be over rated compared to simply choosing good spells while leveling. Wizards start with a lot more spells known than other arcane casters by a lot and the only thing close is a lore bard earlier in the game. When arcane casters get over 10th level or so they slow down in learning higher new spells. A wizard continues learning spells at the same pace however, so knows more higher level spells. The only option for other arcane casters is to manage with knowing fewer high level spells even with the option of giving up lower level spell versatility. The end result is the wizard has about twice the spells known as a bard or warlock and three times that of a sorcerer. The limited spells known of a sorcerer are closer to what is &quot;needed&quot; for an arcane spell caster. Everything after that is more geared to utility and versatility. When the PHB gives 44 spells known in a spell book compared to the lore bard's 24 spells known or a focused warlock similar to a lore bard via invocations it's clear that wizards get more than enough. Players who don't think their wizards have enough spells need some more experience with similar classes. ;-)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ashrym, post: 6887050, member: 6750235"] That's not really an issue when the PHB spells per level give twice as many spells and the wizard can simply focus on spells that scale well or retain value at higher levels. Typically, finding scrolls and spell books is isn't common and contains duplicates or junk. Scribing spells tends to be over rated compared to simply choosing good spells while leveling. Wizards start with a lot more spells known than other arcane casters by a lot and the only thing close is a lore bard earlier in the game. When arcane casters get over 10th level or so they slow down in learning higher new spells. A wizard continues learning spells at the same pace however, so knows more higher level spells. The only option for other arcane casters is to manage with knowing fewer high level spells even with the option of giving up lower level spell versatility. The end result is the wizard has about twice the spells known as a bard or warlock and three times that of a sorcerer. The limited spells known of a sorcerer are closer to what is "needed" for an arcane spell caster. Everything after that is more geared to utility and versatility. When the PHB gives 44 spells known in a spell book compared to the lore bard's 24 spells known or a focused warlock similar to a lore bard via invocations it's clear that wizards get more than enough. Players who don't think their wizards have enough spells need some more experience with similar classes. ;-) [/QUOTE]

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