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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darkness" data-source="post: 1944319" data-attributes="member: 13">Yeah, well. I don't usually take you seriously in any case. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />[spoiler]Note for uninvolved observers: Yes, I am joking. Actually, I never take him seriously.[/spoiler] <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!    :o"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /> Which is what I said. Stop stealing my posts, you! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> *scrolls Crothian's screen up so he can read my previous post* Semantics. If I wanted to mass-nerf high-level Divination spells because I couldn't deal with them, I could easily brain-damage the corresponding deity (e.g., Savras in the FR) to do achieve that effect.  I totally agree with that. It always saddens me to hear people knee-jerk banning BoVD material from their PCs. That's the second-worst mistake when trying to balance an ability. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> (The worst being trying to balance it with role-playing restrictions.) One, it often forces the DM to metagame to an unhealthy degree. (PCs have spell x? Only enemies with power y can stand against it so they either all die or have this ability. Great.) Two, the bad guys have only a few rounds to wreak havoc with unbalanced abilities - the PCs have an entire campaign to do that. Where's the balance there, again? Three, min/maxing bad guys to get the most bang for their CR is lame. If you give them a more powerful ability (including a spell of their class), their CR should reflect that. Four, why do you need to unbalance your antagonists with PC abilities, anyway? You can give them whatever you want without having to make it available as a spell, feat or otherwise purchasable option.</blockquote>

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