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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fanboy2000" data-source="post: 1949344" data-attributes="member: 19998">Is it my turn?Let me try this one...Of course not. I agree with Crothian on this one, and I feel it's safe to say that it's a point of pride to find an alternative way to deal with problematic spells; an alternative to banning that is. I can't speak for Crothian, but here's my opinion. Your milage may vary. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Very true. However, it's safe to say that the spells in the PHB are more throughly tested than the spells in other books, regardless of the publisher. Finding alternatives to banning is much easier with PHB spells than it is with spells from other sources, regardless of publisher.  Crothian wasn't talking about banning a spell for setting purposes, as he explained a few posts later. Its diffrent when the setting designer bans a spell, because flavor is big factor. Of course, if you're like me, you're both a setting designer and a DM, so sometime the DM bans a spell because he or she is wearing two hats. This question assumes the solution is contrived and strectches the suspension of disbelief. It's posible, and fun, to come up with simple, elegant, and interesting ways to deal with spells that cause problems for a DM. This is a skill that comes only thrugh expreance (an irony, if you think about it) and I willing to be you have that skill.It seems to me that you have found many alternitives to banning in your 17 years of DMing. I find it an irony that you had a problem with someone simply trying to encourage out of the box DMing. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Now, don't make me eat you. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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