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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Brother MacLaren" data-source="post: 2715966" data-attributes="member: 15999">Yes, PCs usually have the odds on their side.  The "typical" encounter is for FOUR PCs to face a challenge equal to a single one of them (because a PC of level X is CR X).  A fight against an equal-level equal-size NPC party has approximately a 50% chance of the PCs losing (if the NPCs were as well-equipped and tactically effective as the PCs).  But how can all NPCs always have the odds on their side?  That doesn't make sense; if two groups of NPCs fight each other (counting, say, a band of orc warriors as NPCs), then one group has the odds on their side and the others are outmatched.  If our lone fighter NPC usually fought foes of CR X-2, as you seem to suggest, then it would take him more battles to advance, with a higher chance of success per battle.  But this only applies once he's gotten to level 3, and getting there isn't trivial.  I don't know what your normal chance of success is vs. a foe of CR X-2, though I think it's better for a Ftr3 vs a Ftr1 than it is for a Ftr10 vs a Ftr8.  And even in a fight with a foe of CR X-2, you might lose, especially if you've had multiple battles that day or if they get a lucky crit.A full, well-balanced party of NPCs, that routinely fights foes of CR X-2 and rarely has more than 4 battles per day, could indeed stand a much better chance of getting to 20th level.  But I view these as "PC advantages" meant to make the game interesting and not overly deadly; I don't regard them as reflective of the typical NPC adventurer experience.</blockquote>

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