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<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 2946227" data-attributes="member: 30001"><p>Ehren37's opinion is pretty much the same as mine on the first part. I don't use alignment as written, and it's not bad advice for these situations.</p><p></p><p>However, I can see the wisdom in some folks' way of interpreting this. How do you really know that a demon is Chaotic Evil if he lives in the Abyss and all he ever does is kill other demons? The answer is probably that the demon has the potential to do Chaotic Evil more so than knowing anything about his personal history. And so I can see some sense in figuring that if someone fireballs some crazy person for a slight insult, you could interpret that (much to the objections of the player probably) as that the PC has always been Chaotic Evil.</p><p></p><p>However most people in these situations have their characters behave according to their own principles (as Werk seems to allude to when he brings up real-world issues). This means that you're really telling the *player* that you think he's chaotic evil - and that usually doesn't go over well.</p><p></p><p>Lukelightning's advice on this I also find sound. I can't rule out from reading the incident that the DM is just picking on the player, although I assumed that the "insane" thing might have ruled that out. As I find myself saying often lately - if you think that a fellow player (including the DM) is being a jerk towards you, IMO it's best to handle that outside of the game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 2946227, member: 30001"] Ehren37's opinion is pretty much the same as mine on the first part. I don't use alignment as written, and it's not bad advice for these situations. However, I can see the wisdom in some folks' way of interpreting this. How do you really know that a demon is Chaotic Evil if he lives in the Abyss and all he ever does is kill other demons? The answer is probably that the demon has the potential to do Chaotic Evil more so than knowing anything about his personal history. And so I can see some sense in figuring that if someone fireballs some crazy person for a slight insult, you could interpret that (much to the objections of the player probably) as that the PC has always been Chaotic Evil. However most people in these situations have their characters behave according to their own principles (as Werk seems to allude to when he brings up real-world issues). This means that you're really telling the *player* that you think he's chaotic evil - and that usually doesn't go over well. Lukelightning's advice on this I also find sound. I can't rule out from reading the incident that the DM is just picking on the player, although I assumed that the "insane" thing might have ruled that out. As I find myself saying often lately - if you think that a fellow player (including the DM) is being a jerk towards you, IMO it's best to handle that outside of the game. [/QUOTE]
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