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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kigmatzomat" data-source="post: 2946346" data-attributes="member: 9254">I will chime in on Werk's side.  They are, as I understand it, in an city of anarchy.  There is no government in place, no higher powers to appeal to, no civil service to perform basic functions.  So, when in a lawless region and accosted by potentially dangerous lunatics who are incapable of rational thought, how do you cope?  Using potentially lethal magic on a lunatic is a definite escalation of force, probably excessively so as it could rile up the locals.  I'd have gone with a hold person spell if I was going to waste magic but I might have gone straight to subdual damage and beat her down.  But I tend to play LN/LE.  My LG characters would probably attempt to use a rope to tie her up first but would be wiling to resort to knocking her unconscious, assuming there wasn't access to a Heal spell to make her sane again.  Medieval nobility often has a wide latitude in dealing with the masses.  Many times they could kill pretty much any commoner and only have to pay a fine.   I don't go that far except in the areas with "evil" governments but the fact remains that commoners were often 2nd class citizens.  If someone acts dresses like a noble (masterwork clothing), has the equipment of a noble (magic doodads), and acts like a noble (expects to be obeyed), they are probably a noble and the masses will react appropriately.  If crazy Aunt Edna threw garbage and screamed at King Henry VIII, she'd probably have been given a solid cuffing and the masses would tell her family she was lucky not to be run through or have her head split open.   I find Werk's actions on the extreme end of things (and woe to him if it turns out Crazy Edna is actually Eccentric Baroness Edna) but not something that immediately categorizes you as "evil" by itself.  Had he strapped her down and then slowly burned her face off then THAT would be immediate trip to evil-town.  But throwing a bolt of fire at her after she proved she was insane.....nah.  Though it would have been better to intentionally miss with the first jet of flames in the hopes of scaring her off and impressing the locals.</blockquote>

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