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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 2949155" data-attributes="member: 3929"><p>It is not any kind of hard to make a DC 25 diplomacy check. And that's if they're Hostile.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure. This is after the fact though, and doesn't affect how they should have acted when one of their own was out of line.</p><p></p><p>And once they're back to Unfriendly or Hostile, what then? Do they conviently forget that some evil folks have just killed off their law-enforcment and focus their energies soley on these guys? If they're willing and able to hire PC killers, then they should have already hired BBEG killers.</p><p></p><p>I've no problem with the townsfolk not liking what the PC did, only that they not react in the way some folks on this thread have suggested.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It was my understanding that the lady continued to act as she did regardless of the die rolls. It seems the DM wanted it to happen this way.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Did they do even this little to help them? Did anyone related to the old lady step in? Anybody know her? Or was she a just DM device to poke the PCs? And how friendly must you be to get in between a crazy old lady and your friend she's throwing trash at? Especially when you realize that it's wrong, and you just stopped doing it, and there's this crazy lady who's lived in your town and probably doesn't know what she's doing.</p><p></p><p>Even if you think it's overreacting for someone to burn the face off an old lady, once you hear that threat, you're going to stop the old lady from doing what she shouldn't have been doing in the first place so the PCs don't overreact.</p><p></p><p>If the townspeople's motivations and attitudes matter, then they should have stopped the old lady.</p><p></p><p>If the townspeople's motivations and attitudes don't matter, then why punish the PCs with them?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felix, post: 2949155, member: 3929"] It is not any kind of hard to make a DC 25 diplomacy check. And that's if they're Hostile. Sure. This is after the fact though, and doesn't affect how they should have acted when one of their own was out of line. And once they're back to Unfriendly or Hostile, what then? Do they conviently forget that some evil folks have just killed off their law-enforcment and focus their energies soley on these guys? If they're willing and able to hire PC killers, then they should have already hired BBEG killers. I've no problem with the townsfolk not liking what the PC did, only that they not react in the way some folks on this thread have suggested. It was my understanding that the lady continued to act as she did regardless of the die rolls. It seems the DM wanted it to happen this way. Did they do even this little to help them? Did anyone related to the old lady step in? Anybody know her? Or was she a just DM device to poke the PCs? And how friendly must you be to get in between a crazy old lady and your friend she's throwing trash at? Especially when you realize that it's wrong, and you just stopped doing it, and there's this crazy lady who's lived in your town and probably doesn't know what she's doing. Even if you think it's overreacting for someone to burn the face off an old lady, once you hear that threat, you're going to stop the old lady from doing what she shouldn't have been doing in the first place so the PCs don't overreact. If the townspeople's motivations and attitudes matter, then they should have stopped the old lady. If the townspeople's motivations and attitudes don't matter, then why punish the PCs with them? [/QUOTE]
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